AGM - Protest

[sickbeggar]

If the objective is to make him drop the asking price of the club and it succeeds that opens the gates of hell to every chicken farmer, hairdresser, con man, carpetbagger and shyster on the planet. 

Erm..that's what we've got currently. How is it any worse? I don't think Lerner is a step up from Ellis but Ellis was diabolical anyway. What have we lost? Yes its a risk but loads of clubs have had a fair few awful owners before they got a decent one. Man City, Chelsea, Man United anyone?

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Charlton Fans are kicking off with protests aimed at their owners, time for the Villa fans to do the same.
We are a mess, time to demonstrate regardless ..

I suppose we could blockade the players car park. That might get some attention if we kept it up til midnight.

[Dave]

Charlton Fans are kicking off with protests aimed at their owners, time for the Villa fans to do the same.
We are a mess, time to demonstrate regardless ..

I suppose we could blockade the players car park. That might get some attention if we kept it up til midnight.

You'd probably manage around ten minutes after the first person wanted to leave the car park before the police moved you on.

[not3bad]

Now, back on topic.

Does anyone think this sort of protest will have any effect?

Nice graphics.

Yeah I like it, looks good.  Will it achieve anything?  No.  But a banner with "Villa for the Cup" doesn't mean we'll win the cup either.  It's just an expression of what we'd like to see happen, and it's well designed, so fair play.

[Durham58]

What is the Lerner Out supposed to achieve and how is it to achieve it?

Is it supposed to make him open his chequebook and throw more money at the club?  If that is the hope how does attacking him improve those chances?

If the objective is to make him drop the asking price of the club and it succeeds that opens the gates of hell to every chicken farmer, hairdresser, con man, carpetbagger and shyster on the planet.  If you want a perfect parallel of the destiny of a legendary giant of the city brought down you have no further to look than Longbridge.

Slagging off Randy Lerner endlessly is like going in your garden and raging at the rain.

He could be a good owner for us if he wanted to be , but not attacking him for the last 5 years hasn't worked in terms of getting him to run the  club properly.

 

[not3bad]

What is the Lerner Out supposed to achieve and how is it to achieve it?

Is it supposed to make him open his chequebook and throw more money at the club?  If that is the hope how does attacking him improve those chances?

If the objective is to make him drop the asking price of the club and it succeeds that opens the gates of hell to every chicken farmer, hairdresser, con man, carpetbagger and shyster on the planet.  If you want a perfect parallel of the destiny of a legendary giant of the city brought down you have no further to look than Longbridge.

Slagging off Randy Lerner endlessly is like going in your garden and raging at the rain.

He could be a good owner for us if he wanted to be

 

I don't see it.  He was terrible at Cleveland Brown's and he's been terrible for Villa.  As far as owning a sports club is concerned he's got the opposite of the midas touch.

[Chris Harte]

Of course a flag isn't going to get rid of Lerner, do you honestly thing people are that daft to suggest that? What it might do though is draw people's attention to the shitfest our club has turned into. It also may remind others than Villa fans still have a bit of pride in the club unlike the muppets that run it. Good luck to them.

This is pretty much my take on it too. If we're doomed then at the very least don't be doomed with a whimper.

[Jimbo]

Now, back on topic.

Does anyone think this sort of protest will have any effect?

Nice graphics.

Yeah I like it, looks good.  Will it achieve anything?  No.  But a banner with "Villa for the Cup" doesn't mean we'll win the cup either.  It's just an expression of what we'd like to see happen, and it's well designed, so fair play.

Well said.

[CT]

It's not ideal, I know, but maybe the replay is the time to vote with our feet.

I know it divides opinion, obviously, but as it doesn't count on people's ST's, maybe this is the one.

To be honest, if we played in front of 40'000, we'd still be hopelessly shite and as a side issue, there are players out there cheating a living from the football club, and don't deserve any support.

[aj2k77]

We played in front of 40,000 fans and couldn't beat a 4th division side in Bradford. The support doesn't matter a jot to these players. Right now I suspect we are nothing more than a bad part of their life that they can't wait to be rid of. None of them care, we have a right set of losers and mercenaries at the club, hence why we have 8 pts in January and can't beat a team one step up from being part time footballers.

[Irish villain]

and another thing I don't and never did like Ellis, but lerner has used him as a roll model and then some, just saying like.

He's actually just about the exact opposite.

that's your opinion love

2 quick questions.

1. How much money did Doug put into or take out of the club during his time as owner?

2. How much money has Lerner put into or taken out of the club as owner?

Lerner has left us with a lost half decade (soon to be lost decade?) and arguably the worst side in our history. In the fourteen years before Lerner showed up we were competitive in the top flight and when we sold top players like Yorke reinvested the money on quality players.

Milner replaced by Ireland, Downing and Young by N'Zogbia, Benteke by Gestede???

These are awful, awful times for villa and as football fans we need to recognise that and park all the whataboutery.

[Dave]

I don't think you answered the questions that he asked.

[Tony Erdington]

It's not ideal, I know, but maybe the replay is the time to vote with our feet.

I know it divides opinion, obviously, but as it doesn't count on people's ST's, maybe this is the one.

To be honest, if we played in front of 40'000, we'd still be hopelessly shite and as a side issue, there are players out there cheating a living from the football club, and don't deserve any support.

yes this is the game to boycott but there are fellow villains that just cant stay away. but we could possibly get under 20k for that game, which VP would look empty at that.

[TopDeck113]

If the objective is to make him drop the asking price of the club and it succeeds that opens the gates of hell to every chicken farmer, hairdresser, con man, carpetbagger and shyster on the planet. 

Erm..that's what we've got currently. How is it any worse? I don't think Lerner is a step up from Ellis but Ellis was diabolical anyway. What have we lost? Yes its a risk but loads of clubs have had a fair few awful owners before they got a decent one. Man City, Chelsea, Man United anyone?

Yes, I agree.  Man City, Chelsea and Man United all currently have awful owners.

[CT]

It's not ideal, I know, but maybe the replay is the time to vote with our feet.

I know it divides opinion, obviously, but as it doesn't count on people's ST's, maybe this is the one.

To be honest, if we played in front of 40'000, we'd still be hopelessly shite and as a side issue, there are players out there cheating a living from the football club, and don't deserve any support.

yes this is the game to boycott but there are fellow villains that just cant stay away. but we could possibly get under 20k for that game, which VP would look empty at that.

I know mate, and I'm not jumping up and down telling everyone not to go and what to do. I'd never do that.

I just think, IMO, if there is a game where fans could let Lerner, Fox and many of the players know how much contempt they're held in, then this is the one.