AGM - Protest

[Dave]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

Agree with this.  As bad as the current situation is, it could be a lot worse.

Or glass half full - it could be a lot better

Go for it, explain how.

Well... Somebody with a lot of money and some level of business acumen meets the asking price and employs the right people to stop us from being quite as rubbish as we currently are.

[JasonStevens]

What Dave said

[Villa in Denmark]

Which is why the last line was

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.

No one's arguing against that the sooner Lerner sells the better, but that's only true if it's to someone who can improve us.

[Durham58]

I'd like to buy it mate, but I haven't got a spare £150m. I suspect all other interested parties find themselves in the same predicament.

I doubt prospective purchasers see that as a predicament, it's just a ridiculous asking price that no ones going to pay.

 If and when Lerner gets real , the  club will be sold.

What price do you think would be realistic?

Considerably less than £150m , for a club facing certain relegation, with a squad (current "assets"  in accounting terms) consisting of numerous players who are literally worthless.

[JasonStevens]

I've got $17.55 in my wallet and a HSC in physical education - can I buy us?

[AVH87]

I think in the summer we were worth £150m, PL ever-present with excellent stadium, training and youth facilities, and a name in English football. A proper buyer could have bought us and got us up the league. That chance has gone and now we are obviously worth a lot less.

[tomd2103]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

Agree with this.  As bad as the current situation is, it could be a lot worse.

Or glass half full - it could be a lot better

Err, not quite sure you've got what I was saying.  It is crap and has been for some time under Lerner, but it could be worse.  We could have an owner like the ones at Cardiff or Hull with them trying to change the kit or the name of the club or we could be facing the prospect of relegation in the financial situation Portsmouth and Leeds were. 

That said, I can't help but feel there is some further bad news to come.

[OzVilla]

I reckon as income drops 40% from the PL to the Championship, the overhaul of the squad and no gurentee of promotion I think Randy would do well to get £80 million for us right now.

[JasonStevens]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

Agree with this.  As bad as the current situation is, it could be a lot worse.

Or glass half full - it could be a lot better

Err, not quite sure you've got what I was saying.  It is crap and has been for some time under Lerner, but it could be worse.  We could have an owner like the ones at Cardiff or Hull with them trying to change the kit or the name of the club or we could be facing the prospect of relegation in the financial situation Portsmouth and Leeds were. 

That said, I can't help but feel there is some further bad news to come.

Or it could be better - we could've had an owner like Citeh and ploughed $1000m into the squad, it's all about how you want to look at stuff - some people think negative, others positive. I'm the latter.

[Villa in Denmark]

That's not the argument I was making though.

The argument is that it is undeniably shit right now, but for anyone wanting "anyone but Lerner" - be careful what you wish for because we can't afford another Lerner or worse. Not that that's what will eventually happen.

[tomd2103]

Alternatively drop the price to a point where Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous but even more dodgy younger brother can have a go.

Or I'm sure Ray Ransom would still be interested if the price was right.

Or that consortium that's done such a wonderful for Coventry can probably raise enough cash by selling Cov and mortgaging themselves (us) to the hilt if the price drops to around £100M.

Right now this is undeniably utterly gut wrenchingly shit.
Believe it or not it could be worse.

It could have been someone as hopelessly out of his depth as Lerner and who'd done all of the money after the buyout as loans with banks.

Or even better, borrowed the money to buy us.

I think that they're called Leeds and Portsmouth.

There's obviously a sliding scale where the number of potential buyers increases as the price decreases.

Unfortunately the chances of hitting an absolute shyster also increase as the price decreases.

10 years ago the overwhelming feeling I recall was "anyone but Ellis." That worked our well didn't it?

We sure as he'll can't afford our "anyone but Lerner" being the same or worse.


EDIT: The anyone but Ellis line is in no way, shape or form a pining for the Days of Doug. If he'd had to make his 80's comeback at all, his time had gone by the mid 90's at the absolute latest.

Agree with this.  As bad as the current situation is, it could be a lot worse.

Or glass half full - it could be a lot better

Err, not quite sure you've got what I was saying.  It is crap and has been for some time under Lerner, but it could be worse.  We could have an owner like the ones at Cardiff or Hull with them trying to change the kit or the name of the club or we could be facing the prospect of relegation in the financial situation Portsmouth and Leeds were. 

That said, I can't help but feel there is some further bad news to come.

Or it could be better - we could've had an owner like Citeh and ploughed $1000m into the squad, it's all about how you want to look at stuff - some people think negative, others positive. I'm the latter.

Sorry to be pedantic, but I am looking on the positive side aren't I?  Saying it's a bad situation, but could be a whole lot worse is a positive way of thinking isn't it?

[Dominic22]

That's not the argument I was making though.

The argument is that it is undeniably shit right now, but for anyone wanting "anyone but Lerner" - be careful what you wish for because we can't afford another Lerner or worse. Not that that's what will eventually happen.

I agree with this and the other post. I love a good demonstration like the best of them. I spent my formative years getting a kicking by West Yorkshire and Nottingham police during the miners strike and still go to marches and demos when the mood takes me.

I cannot see other then he is hopeless at running a sports "franchise" what we can demonstrate about. He wants out, what we don't need is a sale at any price to some of the charlatans running clubs now. I have never had a doubt that Randy means well and having met him, he is a lovely guy he just makes the big decisions poorly consistently.... 

[Dave Cooper please]

Sign this if you interested enough:

https://www.change.org/p/lerneroutrandy-lerner-and-his-administration-out-of-aston-villa-now

A petition urging Lerner to sell a club he is already trying to sell.
Marvellous.


If he really wanted to sell it , he could have done so.

If you are happy for your club to be sold to any chancer or asset stripper who can stump up something near the asking price then fine, I guess he could have found a buyer, I'd much rather his last actions at VP be him selling to someone who can bring us back to where we should be as a club.

[olaftab]

There is a very good chance of us ending up being owned by a gambler or a chancer even asset strippers  if the price drops too low. So I think it's best that Lerner holds out for decent seller value that should mean a serious player buying us.

[andyh]

What's the parachute payment this year?
I'm sure I read on here that it's £100m this year?