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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #225 on: January 04, 2016, 08:41:48 AM »
How is Sherwood a liar?
He outed himself as liar by giving it the big I am, look at me signing all of these talented players from abroad, "there's no value in the English market" was I believe one of the phrases, when we signing players in the summer. Then only 2 months later he turned around and washed his hands of the entire squad in his self preservation "nothing to do with me" my hands are tied routine.

As those statements are mutually exclusive, only one of them can be true. Ergo the other is a lie.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #226 on: January 04, 2016, 08:43:41 AM »
He promised to make us a winning team and did the exact opposite.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #227 on: January 04, 2016, 08:48:05 AM »
He promised to make us a winning team and did the exact opposite.
He did tell the truth about one thing though.  He said we wouldn't be involved in another relegation battle this season  :(

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #228 on: January 04, 2016, 08:53:17 AM »
What disturbs me most is we seem able to turn a pretty decent player into rubbish. There is something at Villa park that turns everything sour.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #229 on: January 04, 2016, 08:55:12 AM »
What disturbs me most is we seem able to turn a pretty decent player into rubbish. There is something at Villa park that turns everything sour.
Ryan Bertrand springs to mind.

Started brightly, quickly turned to shit. Then completed a permanent move to Southampton and looks good again.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #230 on: January 04, 2016, 09:22:26 AM »
Fork in the road - took the wrong direction crashed the car at high speed into the central reservation

Fixed

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #231 on: January 04, 2016, 09:29:02 AM »
I think the idea of piling up (not setting them on fire mind) our PHBF scarfs in front of  McGregor is a very good idea. I am in if anyone wants to organise?
Throwing them on the pitch just as a designated home game kicks off would be more effective.

Agreed. If you're going to do something, do it in full view of TV cameras and the press. Leave McGregor out of this.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #232 on: January 04, 2016, 09:44:14 AM »
I think an "In loving memory of our football club" wreath on the old boy's grave in the spring could be acceptable and appropriate.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #233 on: January 04, 2016, 10:25:19 AM »
I'd favour more direct action. Invade the pitch and stop a match. Won't solve anything, won't help the team (but they're beyond help now, so we shouldn't worry about upsetting the lazy little lightweights), probably won't even be seen by Randy ( or his purse string, legacy-controlling mother) but might help fans to let off steam. No point having a polite demo that gets no attention.

Would be fun to do it at The Emirates, but a home game would be better. Get a game held up while Foxy is forced to listen to what fans really think

   

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #234 on: January 04, 2016, 10:31:14 AM »
Let's not get overly melodramatic and start throwing wreaths or carrying coffins around grounds please. We can leave that to those sanctimonious tossers from Sandwell.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #235 on: January 04, 2016, 10:55:50 AM »
I'd favour more direct action. Invade the pitch and stop a match. Won't solve anything, won't help the team (but they're beyond help now, so we shouldn't worry about upsetting the lazy little lightweights), probably won't even be seen by Randy ( or his purse string, legacy-controlling mother) but might help fans to let off steam. No point having a polite demo that gets no attention.

Unless they think that it's worth a three-year banning order to let off some steam, they might be better off taking up boxing or maybe having a massage.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #236 on: January 04, 2016, 10:59:22 AM »
I'd favour more direct action. Invade the pitch and stop a match. Won't solve anything, won't help the team (but they're beyond help now, so we shouldn't worry about upsetting the lazy little lightweights), probably won't even be seen by Randy ( or his purse string, legacy-controlling mother) but might help fans to let off steam. No point having a polite demo that gets no attention.

Unless they think that it's worth a three-year banning order to let off some steam, they might be better off taking up boxing or maybe having a massage.

A 3 year banning order from watching Villa? it would be a relief for some. Pitch invasion is the only action to get noticed. Those worried about it could wave their scarves at a statue

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #237 on: January 04, 2016, 11:01:04 AM »
I'd favour more direct action. Invade the pitch and stop a match. Won't solve anything, won't help the team (but they're beyond help now, so we shouldn't worry about upsetting the lazy little lightweights), probably won't even be seen by Randy ( or his purse string, legacy-controlling mother) but might help fans to let off steam. No point having a polite demo that gets no attention.

Unless they think that it's worth a three-year banning order to let off some steam, they might be better off taking up boxing or maybe having a massage.

The court would probably issue a 3 year season ticket as a punishment.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #238 on: January 04, 2016, 11:01:37 AM »
I'd favour more direct action. Invade the pitch and stop a match. Won't solve anything, won't help the team (but they're beyond help now, so we shouldn't worry about upsetting the lazy little lightweights), probably won't even be seen by Randy ( or his purse string, legacy-controlling mother) but might help fans to let off steam. No point having a polite demo that gets no attention.

Unless they think that it's worth a three-year banning order to let off some steam, they might be better off taking up boxing or maybe having a massage.

A 3 year banning order from watching Villa? it would be a relief for some. Pitch invasion is the only action to get noticed. Those worried about it could wave their scarves at a statue

*shrugs*

In which case, go for it.

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Re: AGM - Protest
« Reply #239 on: January 04, 2016, 11:10:59 AM »
The problem with Saunders Heroes and his "calling them out for years" line is that it always comes back to the same basic complaint and that is Lerner must spend more.

You cannot just blindly demand he piss more and more money down the drain.

I have met Fox a few times now and can assure they are very much aware of (and in agreement with) our issues over how the club has been run for many years. Whether you rate Fix or not, he at least is trying to put in place the structure we should have had from day one.

As for the protest, there is little point protesting at anything without a clear aim. The line here seems to be the whole point is to let people know we are pissed off. They know that very well.

Lee Preece spends a fair chunk of his week looking at what is being discussed on the forums and reports this back to the board.

If you are determined to protest at Lerner, Fox, Almstadt et al, you have to be clear on what they have done incorrectly in your view.

Now I fully intend to twist the knife on Fox about his Sherwood appointment at the Trust AGM (there wasn't time at the meeting before the Arsenal game). That is one where there are facts he can't escape from of his own doing. Protesting about Almstadt being a shit scout won't work, for example, as he has fuck all to do with recruitment.

Well yes, and no. We know that lerner wants to sell so I agree that there is absolutely no point in 'lerner Out' signs, banners, songs etc because he wants out too, we all know that. Moreover, I'm not sure that suddenly throwing cash at us is the answer too. At least not from Lerner. The problem is that we have lurched from one poor decision after another from our American cartel. from the innocence and subterfuge of Krulak to the dismissing of Fitzgerald, appointments of one inadequate person after another, and an owner who has pulled the plug far too quickly for the club to be buoyant enough to make a sale enticing to serious bidders. I'm not convinced that buyers aren't there either despite FPP as the money in the television deals are mind blowing.

So, what I'd like to see lerner do is communicate with us. Now more than ever. Yes, you want out so what are you doing to prevent the sale? Is it the cost? is it who comes next? If so, what are the sticking points there? What is the tick list that any potential new owner needs to pass? Obviously we won't need to know everything but is it the minimum an owner is going to spend? What their vision for the club is? We need more from Lerner. Don't come to games if he doesn't want to, but he should be here a bit more just to give a club in the doldrums a lift. Anyone who thinks a stay away owner cannot lift a club that is struggling simply by being there from time to time - every couple of months or so - is wrong in my opinion.


 


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