AGM - Protest

[Irish villain]

The big difference between Lerner and Ellis is, some people wanted Ellis out, he had no intention of leaving, so they protested. Some people want Lerner out, so does he. So what does a protest achieve? Sing "we want Lerner out" and he'll join in.

As an overseas fan I am not going to get on my high horse about this. I am only expressing an opinion. There are better fans than me to comment on this matter but surely protest is as much about fans being able to register on record their disapproval as it is about 'achieving' something?

[saunders_heroes]

The big difference between Lerner and Ellis is, some people wanted Ellis out, he had no intention of leaving, so they protested. Some people want Lerner out, so does he. So what does a protest achieve? Sing "we want Lerner out" and he'll join in.

Even if it achieves nothing the fans still have pride in their club. Better than just sitting there doing nothing.

[dave.woodhall]

You're the high profile fan, so what are you gonna do about it? Nothing?

I'll carry on doing what I want to do. I'm not the one who keeps saying there should be protests.

[PeterWithesShin]

The big difference between Lerner and Ellis is, some people wanted Ellis out, he had no intention of leaving, so they protested. Some people want Lerner out, so does he. So what does a protest achieve? Sing "we want Lerner out" and he'll join in.

As an overseas fan I am not going to get on my high horse about this. I am only expressing an opinion. There are better fans than me to comment on this mattr but surely protest is as much about registering disapproval as it is about 'achieving' something?

I have a sneaky feeling they'll be well aware of the levels of disapproval.

[Stu]

Now maybe we ought to get back to protests.

#prayforlipsil

[PeterWithesShin]

The big difference between Lerner and Ellis is, some people wanted Ellis out, he had no intention of leaving, so they protested. Some people want Lerner out, so does he. So what does a protest achieve? Sing "we want Lerner out" and he'll join in.

Even if it achieves nothing the fans still have pride in their club. Better than just sitting there doing nothing.

Surely though by waiting for someone else to do it, you are doing nothing? I'm doing nothing because I feel a protest is pointless as it won't achieve anything. If I wanted to protest though, i'd try and organise one or at least be trying to be in contact with those that can help organise it, although with social media it's not difficult to spread the word these days.

[saunders_heroes]

The big difference between Lerner and Ellis is, some people wanted Ellis out, he had no intention of leaving, so they protested. Some people want Lerner out, so does he. So what does a protest achieve? Sing "we want Lerner out" and he'll join in.

Even if it achieves nothing the fans still have pride in their club. Better than just sitting there doing nothing.

Surely though by waiting for someone else to do it, you are doing nothing? I'm doing nothing because I feel a protest is pointless as it won't achieve anything. If I wanted to protest though, i'd try and organise one or at least be trying to be in contact with those that can help organise it, although with social media it's not difficult to spread the word these days.

I called out Lerner for what he was years ago while you were skipping in delight at the latest 'young and hungry' horse shit.

[tomd2103]

The big difference between Lerner and Ellis is, some people wanted Ellis out, he had no intention of leaving, so they protested. Some people want Lerner out, so does he. So what does a protest achieve? Sing "we want Lerner out" and he'll join in.

Even if it achieves nothing the fans still have pride in their club. Better than just sitting there doing nothing.

Surely though by waiting for someone else to do it, you are doing nothing? I'm doing nothing because I feel a protest is pointless as it won't achieve anything. If I wanted to protest though, i'd try and organise one or at least be trying to be in contact with those that can help organise it, although with social media it's not difficult to spread the word these days.

As you say PWS, it is hard to pinpoint exactly what to protest against.  I think most would want Lerner to move on, but as you say he wants that as well so that negates that.  Also, I think most of us would agree that there is a danger of him becoming desperate to sell and offloading to a Carson Yeung / Venkys type of character.

We could protest against the manager, but I think most fans would accept that he has inherited a pretty thankless task and deserves to be given a chance.  Who does that leave to protest against? 

[PeterWithesShin]

The big difference between Lerner and Ellis is, some people wanted Ellis out, he had no intention of leaving, so they protested. Some people want Lerner out, so does he. So what does a protest achieve? Sing "we want Lerner out" and he'll join in.

Even if it achieves nothing the fans still have pride in their club. Better than just sitting there doing nothing.

Surely though by waiting for someone else to do it, you are doing nothing? I'm doing nothing because I feel a protest is pointless as it won't achieve anything. If I wanted to protest though, i'd try and organise one or at least be trying to be in contact with those that can help organise it, although with social media it's not difficult to spread the word these days.

I called out Lerner for what he was years ago while you were skipping in delight at the latest 'young and hungry' horse shit.

Quite what that has to do what I said and asked i'm not sure, but you sound delighted to be able to say "I told you we were shit" which is a tad bizarre.

[saunders_heroes]

Quite what that has to do what I said and asked i'm not sure, but you sound delighted to be able to say "I told you we were shit" which is a tad bizarre.

Indeed. When I was you telling you we were in decline you were too busy dancing with delight at the latest Lerner PR stunt to notice.

[PeterWithesShin]

So you're delighted we're shit so you can gloat, and you still won't answer what I asked. Somehow neither surprise me.

[saunders_heroes]

So you're delighted we're shit so you can gloat, and you still won't answer what I asked. Somehow neither surprise me.

I'm not delighted, I'm gutted about the state of the club. I'm also gutted it's taken this long for many of us to realise what Lerner has done to us.

[PeterWithesShin]

Well you said "indeed" when I said you seem delighted to be able to say it.

Now 4th time lucky, how about what I actually said and asked that you keep avoiding?

[Durham58]

Why should the fact that   that Lerner has made it public knowledge that he wants to sell the club make him immune from demonstrations against his brand of "leadership" ?

For me it's irrelevant that he wants to sell.

He bought us , that  was his decision and we are his responsibility until he sells.

The man is a multi  millionaire and he could use that wealth to make us a genuine force, instead he  chooses austerity for Aston Villa while he leads a lifestyle of champagne and oysters in the  USA .

It's beyond a joke, we know they wouldn't tolerate this at Liverpool and we shouldn't tolerate it here.

My view is that any protest  shouldn't be about "Lerner Out" it should be about getting him back here actually talking to the supporters explaining what he proposes to do and basically  facing up to his responsibilities.

The wall of silence from him in the current situation is totally unacceptable.
     

[tomd2103]

Why should the fact that   that Lerner has made it public knowledge that he wants to sell the club make him immune from demonstrations against his brand of "leadership" ?

For me it's irrelevant that he wants to sell.

He bought us , that  was his decision and we are his responsibility until he sells.

The man is a multi  millionaire and he could use that wealth to make us a genuine force, instead he  chooses austerity for Aston Villa while he leads a lifestyle of champagne and oysters in the  USA .

It's beyond a joke, we know they wouldn't tolerate this at Liverpool and we shouldn't tolerate it here.

My view is that any protest  shouldn't be about "Lerner Out" it should be about getting him back here actually talking to the supporters explaining what he proposes to do and basically  facing up to his responsibilities.

The wall of silence from him in the current situation is totally unacceptable.
   

Understand your sentiments, but how do we go about doing that?  What exactly can we do?