Sunderland v Rock Bottom Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Villatillidie1982]

Is it Match of the Day or is it the Keystone Cops? Wonderful goal by Gil though.

[Des Little]

Once they got their second that was it over. Our lot have clearly thrown in the towel...we can only curse our back luck to a point, then it becomes self pity which too many players seem to be hiding behind.

All I hope is that neither Sunderland or Newcastle join us next season and Middlesbrough go up because the day I have to make that bloody journey up there again will be one too soon.

[frank]

Feel for those fans who traveled up there today, sang their hearts out and not even been acknowledged by the fans, that said, they're probably incapable of clapping their hands together. Never mind though, they've probably been at home a couple of hours already after FLYING home from Sunderland. If it had been my way I would have made them make their own way home. (They'd probably end up lost though)

You mean "acknowledged by the team"? I waited at the end, just out of curiosity to see what the players would do. There was no way they could come over to the away end, with all the booing and jeering. Bacuna gave a bit of a clap from the halfway line, which provoked even more derision. It reminded me of Bradford away, when the players who attempted to applaud us got booed all the more.

[Steve67]

Hutton and Traore added to the injury list now too. Whoopee! Bacuna at right back again. Oh the joy!!

[brontebilly]

Our players are disgusting professionals, charlatans the most of them. Would love if we fucked a load of them out of the club asap

[adrenachrome]

Feel for those fans who traveled up there today, sang their hearts out and not even been acknowledged by the fans, that said, they're probably incapable of clapping their hands together. Never mind though, they've probably been at home a couple of hours already after FLYING home from Sunderland. If it had been my way I would have made them make their own way home. (They'd probably end up lost though)

You mean "acknowledged by the team"? I waited at the end, just out of curiosity to see what the players would do. There was no way they could come over to the away end, with all the booing and jeering. Bacuna gave a bit of a clap from the halfway line, which provoked even more derision. It reminded me of Bradford away, when the players who attempted to applaud us got booed all the more.

When the away fans are in this mood, it is an advance sign of what will happen of at Villa Park. Fun times ahead for the faithful.

[ROBBO]

For the first time this season I decided not to get up in the middle of the night to watch the game, I have recorded it but probably won't watch it. I am that angry that I think I will write this season off and as championship games as far as I know don't show over here I will be spared the agony of watching Villa next season.
Thought a lot about our situation and what I think it boils down to is that last season we sold our only two good players and Cleverly. They were the reason we survived last year and were gone to be replaced by
someone's good idea. The plan whoever dreamt it up has been a disaster because not one of the newcomers comes anywhere near the quality that we lost. I don't blame Garde  it wouldn't matter which combination of players he picked from the squad on any match day we would still struggle because the players we have just are not very good. Something tells me that there are problems in the change rooms because I see little team spirit in this side.

[Chris Stares]

Hutton and Traore added to the injury list now too. Whoopee! Bacuna at right back again. Oh the joy!!

There is another option at right back.  Unfortunately, he seems intent on masquerading as a centre half.

[Des Little]

When a team has 8 poxy points from 20 games, you know that the whole club is rotten. Think about some of the poorest teams that we've played in the prem over the years...Bradford, Swindon, Derby...we are currently struggling to better their record. It really is a bloody disgrace.

[olaftab]

I thought that too, quite sad reading that, over the years most people I have encountered always seemed to have a good word about the Villa, I think the last five years has changed that, people must be sick to death of us and just want us gone I know I'd feel the same if I wasn't a Villa fan.

Sorry that makes no sense. Why would fans of other clubs be sick to death of a struggling team? I wasn't sick to death of Bolton one Wigan or Blackburn before they finally got relegated. I am sick to death of Chelsea, manure etc.

[rougegorge]

Feel for those fans who traveled up there today, sang their hearts out and not even been acknowledged by the fans, that said, they're probably incapable of clapping their hands together. Never mind though, they've probably been at home a couple of hours already after FLYING home from Sunderland. If it had been my way I would have made them make their own way home. (They'd probably end up lost though)

You mean "acknowledged by the team"? I waited at the end, just out of curiosity to see what the players would do. There was no way they could come over to the away end, with all the booing and jeering. Bacuna gave a bit of a clap from the halfway line, which provoked even more derision. It reminded me of Bradford away, when the players who attempted to applaud us got booed all the more.

When the away fans are in this mood, it is an advance sign of what will happen of at Villa Park. Fun times ahead for the faithful.

Yes the fans today really lost patience. The irony was the chant of 'what the f***ing hell was that' in response to Gil's woeful effort prior to his great goal.
 
If the players had acknowledged us more afterwards, they know they'd have been lambasted.

Mention of Bradford brings back a key moment. The season of the Christmas nightmare and defeats to Millwall and Bradford was when the club truly showed that massive under achievement was acceptable. The board thought that the 'we go again' priciple and a so-called 'plan' that changed all the time was OK.

Any other club of our standing would have done something there and then instead of backing negativity and supporting failure and thus setting the bar ever lower. Moreover,  the tacit mocking from board and management to fans for daring to think we should be anywhere near the top simply was a way of reinforcing this stance.

In the last 6 seasons the ongoing affirmation of complete inadequacy from the top has been utterly inexcusable. 

[LeeB]

For the first time this season I decided not to get up in the middle of the night to watch the game, I have recorded it but probably won't watch it. I am that angry that I think I will write this season off and as championship games as far as I know don't show over here I will be spared the agony of watching Villa next season.
Thought a lot about our situation and what I think it boils down to is that last season we sold our only two good players and Cleverly. They were the reason we survived last year and were gone to be replaced by
someone's good idea. The plan whoever dreamt it up has been a disaster because not one of the newcomers comes anywhere near the quality that we lost. I don't blame Garde  it wouldn't matter which combination of players he picked from the squad on any match day we would still struggle because the players we have just are not very good. Something tells me that there are problems in the change rooms because I see little team spirit in this side.

We've got some functioning players for this level, but where they need to be supplemented by three good players to be competetive, like those you've mentioned, we instead have several terrible, God awaful footballers that would do well to scrape a living in the division below.

Danny Graham was waiting to come on earlier, and I've always thought him to be absolute garbage at this level. And I thought to myself I'd take him in a heartbeat over what we had up front.

We have managed to assemble the most comically inept squad you'd think it was almost impossible without design.

[Witton Warrior]

I thought that too, quite sad reading that, over the years most people I have encountered always seemed to have a good word about the Villa, I think the last five years has changed that, people must be sick to death of us and just want us gone I know I'd feel the same if I wasn't a Villa fan.

Sorry that makes no sense. Why would fans of other clubs be sick to death of a struggling team? I wasn't sick to death of Bolton one Wigan or Blackburn before they finally got relegated. I am sick to death of Chelsea, manure etc.

Apparently we are arrogant, deluded and fickle. I think we are pissed-off, angry and frustrated. I like Sunderland and their fans (since '74 when they showed their class at VP) but that was then this is now. Everybody hates everybody. They do not like the fact we have won the European Cup... whoops...

[tomd2103]

Feel for those fans who traveled up there today, sang their hearts out and not even been acknowledged by the fans, that said, they're probably incapable of clapping their hands together. Never mind though, they've probably been at home a couple of hours already after FLYING home from Sunderland. If it had been my way I would have made them make their own way home. (They'd probably end up lost though)

You mean "acknowledged by the team"? I waited at the end, just out of curiosity to see what the players would do. There was no way they could come over to the away end, with all the booing and jeering. Bacuna gave a bit of a clap from the halfway line, which provoked even more derision. It reminded me of Bradford away, when the players who attempted to applaud us got booed all the more.

When the away fans are in this mood, it is an advance sign of what will happen of at Villa Park. Fun times ahead for the faithful.

Yes the fans today really lost patience. The irony was the chant of 'what the f***ing hell was that' in response to Gil's woeful effort prior to his great goal.
 
If the players had acknowledged us more afterwards, they know they'd have been lambasted.

Mention of Bradford brings back a key moment. The season of the Christmas nightmare and defeats to Millwall and Bradford was when the club truly showed that massive under achievement was acceptable. The board thought that the 'we go again' priciple and a so-called 'plan' that changed all the time was OK.

Any other club of our standing would have done something there and then instead of backing negativity and supporting failure and thus setting the bar ever lower. Moreover,  the tacit mocking from board and management to fans for daring to think we should be anywhere near the top simply was a way of reinforcing this stance.

In the last 6 seasons the ongoing affirmation of complete inadequacy from the top has been utterly inexcusable.

That week was a terrible, but strangely enough there was a glimmer of hope in the remainder of that season.  We got some good results towards the end of that season and played some good football, but like so many times in the past failed to build on it that summer.

[FarEastVilla]

Edvard sums it up totally - nailed it right on the head, in every aspect of the club from top to bottom.


We are being screwed from and taken advantage of by all concerned. Our Villa is being bled and we are doing nothing about it.