Aston Villa v West Ham Post-Match Thread

[SoccerHQ]

Well the performance was spirited, the effort can't be faulted but the quality is just not there with this 11, we see it every week and it will continue.

It was interesting watching West Ham today. They were very limited which I'm sure left many scratching their heads as to how they're top 8. Well the reason is they were missing their best centre half (Winston Reid), their playmaker (Payet), their best wide player (Victor Moses) and their best striker (Sakho).

Basically that's their equivilant of what we had last season and lost in the summer. The difference is they'll have those players to come back eventually, we don't.

In fairness Veretout played well again today, he's got something as has Ayew but it's just not enough to win games. If we had any serious aspirations of staying up we'd have won with the momentum after the penalty.

Swansea hadn't won for ages either, they had a similar type game at home to West Brom and won that, that's going to be the difference at the end of the season. We are done at this level.

[ChicagoLion]

Well the performance was spirited, the effort can't be faulted but the quality is just not there with this 11, we see it every week and it will continue.

It was interesting watching West Ham today. They were very limited which I'm sure left many scratching their heads as to how they're top 8. Well the reason is they were missing their best centre half (Winston Reid), their playmaker (Payet), their best wide player (Victor Moses) and their best striker (Sakho).

Basically that's their equivilant of what we had last season and lost in the summer. The difference is they'll have those players to come back eventually, we don't.

In fairness Veretout played well again today, he's got something as has Ayew but it's just not enough to win games. If we had any serious aspirations of staying up we'd have won with the momentum after the penalty.

Swansea hadn't won for ages either, they had a similar type game at home to West Brom and won that, that's going to be the difference at the end of the season. We are done at this level.

Exactly, we just don't have enough quality.

[PeterWithesShin]

How any one could think that a bottom 4 team could lose its 4 best players and survive without replacing them.

Benteke, Delph...I'm guessing Vlaar?

You've lost me. Luna? Helenius?

I'm guessing he means 6 good games Tom Cleverely.

[walsall villain]

Deserved a win today but too many half chances went begging. At least I enjoyed the game which is some consolation. So much possession outside of their box second half, wish we would try shooting from there instead of gradually getting it to Hutton.

[Taylor]

It's also ironic that none of those 4 are setting the world alight at their new clubs.

[Villafirst]

We need Richards back quickly. Thought Okore snd Lescott did well, defence will be stronger when Richards returns. Needed Adama on much earlier - 10 minutes is a joke. Garde is too cautious when wins are a must against the likes of West Ham.

[ChicagoLion]

It's also ironic that none of those 4 are setting the world alight at their new clubs.

I would still rather have them than not. This team is significantly weaker than the one than finished last season although that was not the mainstream view on here.

[Dave]

It's also ironic that none of those 4 are setting the world alight at their new clubs.

I would still rather have them than not. This team is significantly weaker than the one than finished last season although that was not the mainstream view on here.

No it's not. It's a better team lacking a brilliant striker.

It's still not a good team, but stick Benteke in this year's team and Gestede in last year's and this year's would win comfortably.

[kippaxvilla2]

Wet Spam had six first teamers missing today.  We just had to win it.

[itbrvilla]

Negative again by Remi.  We have no choice but to go for it every game

[ChicagoLion]

It's also ironic that none of those 4 are setting the world alight at their new clubs.

I would still rather have them than not. This team is significantly weaker than the one than finished last season although that was not the mainstream view on here.

No it's not. It's a better team lacking a brilliant striker.

It's still not a good team, but stick Benteke in this year's team and Gestede in last year's and this year's would win comfortably.

I disagree, the defence is worse and we have no back up to the Goalkeeper who is a liability.

[Goldie.7]

We need Richards back quickly. Thought Okore snd Lescott did well, defence will be stronger when Richards returns. Needed Adama on much earlier - 10 minutes is a joke. Garde is too cautious when wins are a must against the likes of West Ham.

I don't agree. We'd be losing more with him back there.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

huffed and puffed against a poor west ham side who offered zero going forward. we deserved to win but didnt, the story of our season. garde was far too negative again.

half a season with no home win and 17 games without a win, 10 wins needed from 20 games which is top 8 form

we are down

[Dave]

It's also ironic that none of those 4 are setting the world alight at their new clubs.

I would still rather have them than not. This team is significantly weaker than the one than finished last season although that was not the mainstream view on here.

No it's not. It's a better team lacking a brilliant striker.

It's still not a good team, but stick Benteke in this year's team and Gestede in last year's and this year's would win comfortably.

I disagree, the defence is worse and we have no back up to the Goalkeeper who is a liability.

Amavi is better than anything we had at left-back last season. The fact that he's injured doesn't change that.

Richards vs Vlaar is a flip of a coin. Both have had decent games for us with a lot of not-decent games for us. We didn't have any suitable back-up to Guzan last year either.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

It's also ironic that none of those 4 are setting the world alight at their new clubs.

I would still rather have them than not. This team is significantly weaker than the one than finished last season although that was not the mainstream view on here.

No it's not. It's a better team lacking a brilliant striker.

It's still not a good team, but stick Benteke in this year's team and Gestede in last year's and this year's would win comfortably.

Yup. In game after game a critical chance has been wasted. Benteke didn't guarantee us goals but he'd have converted more than a few of those as well as creating chances all on his own and creating general mayhem.

I think we did OK (but not amazing) this summer, but not replacing Benteke with anyone remotely as good is hurting us badly. And yes, I know this is the most obvious statement ever.