Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Clark W Griswold]

I am going to offer everyone a tiny bit of hope.

Everyone is banging on about us having the least number of points at this stage of the season and all that.  Fair enough.

It is worth noting that even after Boxing Day's fixtures last year, Leicester still only had 10 points.  At the end of January, Leicester had 17 points from 23 games.  At the end of February Leicester only had 18 points from 26 games.  As late as 4th April, after 30 games incredibly, Leicester were still only on 22 points.  So it is possible to accrue points quickly.

I realise it is faint hope, however, considering the gap, but it is worth noting how quickly things can look different.

Well when you put it like that we may still have a slither of a chance.

I admire the optimism but Leicester won 7 of their last 9 games losing only to champions Chelsea, are you seriously saying this squad are capable of doing anything similiar.

This time last year they were 5 points from safety we are double that.

Far too much to make up especially on current form

But Leicester did finish with 41 points, 6 points clear of the relegation zone. I think if we are going to do it, it needs to be starting over Xmas and not in March. To be fair I doubt we will turn it around but with so much of the season left you never know.

[MarkM]

Only thing that happened yesterday was we now have a 10 point gap to close.

[rob_bridge]

I think next Saturday is a make or break and we need to win to have a chance of staying up. Do that and we can genuinely start a fight back.

A good point yesterday all things told.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Stats are there for breaking

I've took heart from yesterdays performance, a solid well deserved point

If only the defending for that corner had been "solid"!
More like something smeared on a nappy!


Keeping the faith!

[godzvilla]

I am going to offer everyone a tiny bit of hope.

Everyone is banging on about us having the least number of points at this stage of the season and all that.  Fair enough.

It is worth noting that even after Boxing Day's fixtures last year, Leicester still only had 10 points.  At the end of January, Leicester had 17 points from 23 games.  At the end of February Leicester only had 18 points from 26 games.  As late as 4th April, after 30 games incredibly, Leicester were still only on 22 points.  So it is possible to accrue points quickly.

I realise it is faint hope, however, considering the gap, but it is worth noting how quickly things can look different.

Well when you put it like that we may still have a slither of a chance.

I admire the optimism but Leicester won 7 of their last 9 games losing only to champions Chelsea, are you seriously saying this squad are capable of doing anything similiar.

21 Games left, 63 points to play for, possibly we  could survive on 38 .
Ergo....30 points required . 1.5.points per game should ensure safety ( how easy that sounds ! ) .............Godzvilla!

[rob_bridge]

I have a horrible feeling the proverbial 40 may be required this season.

Stupid stupid missed opportunities under Dim when we played lots of teams with zero form. Many Utd, Swansea, Chelsea, Liverpool, Stoke, sunderland

[olaftab]

I admire the optimism but Leicester won 7 of their last 9 games losing only to champions Chelsea, are you seriously saying this squad are capable of doing anything similiar.

However Leicester did not need all those wins to survive. They finished mid table.

[Chris Smith]

I am going to offer everyone a tiny bit of hope.

Everyone is banging on about us having the least number of points at this stage of the season and all that.  Fair enough.

It is worth noting that even after Boxing Day's fixtures last year, Leicester still only had 10 points.  At the end of January, Leicester had 17 points from 23 games.  At the end of February Leicester only had 18 points from 26 games.  As late as 4th April, after 30 games incredibly, Leicester were still only on 22 points.  So it is possible to accrue points quickly.

I realise it is faint hope, however, considering the gap, but it is worth noting how quickly things can look different.

Well when you put it like that we may still have a slither of a chance.

I admire the optimism but Leicester won 7 of their last 9 games losing only to champions Chelsea, are you seriously saying this squad are capable of doing anything similiar.

This time last year they were 5 points from safety we are double that.

Far too much to make up especially on current form

Current form will see us relegated by the end of January so all calculations are obviously based on us improving on that.

[rgarrad]

1st time post-nobody commented?? on 2 newcastle players in offside positions for goal-i'm a ref & coach u16; 1 clearly interfering;
get off guzan's back-defence affects gk after yrs of crap in front of him!
dreadful atmosphere v. gunners-gestede incredibly limited but will replace soon/need a focus-gil for sinclair:grealish deliver now or sell! we go again-NOT!!
WE GO TOGETHER with 3 good signings
(1st game 1968 hull)

[olaftab]

I think next Saturday is a make or break and we need to win to have a chance of staying up. Do that and we can genuinely start a fight back.

A good point yesterday all things told.

rob yes we need 3 points but it's not make or break next week. That only comes when math is involved. We don't need insurmountable pressure on players. Let's pick up points where we can till jan window opens and then see.

[olaftab]

1st time post-nobody commented?? on 2 newcastle players in offside positions for goal-i'm a ref & coach u16; 1 clearly interfering;
get off guzan's back-defence affects gk after yrs of crap in front of him!
dreadful atmosphere v. gunners-gestede incredibly limited but will replace soon/need a focus-gil for sinclair:grealish deliver now or sell! we go again-NOT!!
WE GO TOGETHER with 3 good signings
(1st game 1968 hull)

Welcome regarrad. Quite unique writing  style but hey we are nothing if not a diverse group.

[rob_bridge]

Guzan has had a terrible year but some of the criticism on here makes the Daily Heil treatment of Jeremy Corbyn look like a backslapping convention.

He was excellent 2012 and 2013 with a dire defence. He was good in 2014 with a marginally better defence. In fact he was fine until Lambert/Sherwood thought playing Given instead of him was a good idea. He has been shit this year with guess what another dire defence.

He needs a rest if we can get someone better. He needs a rest from some of the (unjustifable) criticism.

[olaftab]

Current form will see us relegated by the end of January so all calculations are obviously based on us improving on that.

No. That is likely to be the away game at Mancity on March 5th. That's 10th game from end of season. At that stage it's unlike that 3 teams will be 30 points ahead of us.

[walsall villain]

I think next Saturday is a make or break and we need to win to have a chance of staying up. Do that and we can genuinely start a fight back.

A good point yesterday all things told.

rob yes we need 3 points but it's not make or break next week. That only comes when math is involved. We don't need insurmountable pressure on players. Let's pick up points where we can till jan window opens and then see.

I think a win on Boxing Day is vital followed up by winning at least one from Norwich and Sunderland. Normally nine or ten wins gets you over the line, we can't wait much longer for win number two. I am not thinking we can stay up but if we can win a couple quickly hope will return.

[rgarrad]

1st time post-nobody commented?? on 2 newcastle players in offside positions for goal-i'm a ref & coach u16; 1 clearly interfering;
get off guzan's back-defence affects gk after yrs of crap in front of him!
dreadful atmosphere v. gunners-gestede incredibly limited but will replace soon/need a focus-gil for sinclair:grealish deliver now or sell! we go again-NOT!!
WE GO TOGETHER with 3 good signings
(1st game 1968 hull)

Welcome regarrad. Quite unique writing  style but hey we are nothing if not a diverse group.

thanks for 'welcome'- cut the patronising comment!! (& the misspelling of name)why not answer/ respond to the salient point-offside error....