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Offline in exile

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #225 on: December 18, 2015, 02:51:50 PM »
Investment Banker...is that rhyming slang?

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #226 on: December 18, 2015, 02:58:32 PM »
If he is working in investment banking things must be very quiet to be able to post on here so often. In my day we barely had time to eat.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #227 on: December 18, 2015, 03:06:53 PM »
Depends on how you define Investment Banking.  Could be anything from assisting a Chinese trillionaire to buy (by popular acclaim) half of Wales to me giving my grandsons a rusty old Quality Street tin full of my losing Premium bonds. One name fits all.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #228 on: December 18, 2015, 03:16:46 PM »
If he is working in investment banking things must be very quiet to be able to post on here so often. In my day we barely had time to eat.

He is in a different timezone to us (assuming he is actually in Chicago) so his working day won't correspond with ours.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #229 on: December 18, 2015, 04:08:58 PM »
anyone with any decent money would have bought it by now and wouldn't be hanging around for the price to drop like its a black Friday bargain

we could be in deeper shit if someone buys the club because it was at a bargain basement price and has nothing to invest in the team only by borrowing even more cash against the club asset

 

That was my point yesterday when people reckons he couldn't give a shit. I'm sure he could part with it easily enough. Selling to the right person is the main thing.
not really, the Leveraged Buyers can not get near the asking price based on current valuation, so he has not had that choice.

How do you know that for a fact? How do you know that they met the asking price but needed to borrow it? Doug turned down offers because of that. Besides, no-one really knows what the asking price is, it's all speculation.
i work in investment banking, lots of people know what the asking price is, they just don't happen to live in ClampyLand.

Refilling the pie display at the Edward Jones cafeteria does qualify you as working in investment banking.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #230 on: December 18, 2015, 04:23:37 PM »
I don't think it matters where he lives or how often he turns up. The Man Citeh owner is not ther all the time, his people are though.
The difference is that good owners set a standards which everybody working for them is aware of.
This owner has rewarded and tolerated incompetance and failure and it permeates the club.

It isn't so much that he has rewarded incompetence, there has never been any real level of competence in the club since he took over.

It was great when he was throwing money at us, yes, but even that we now know was done daftly.

By the time he'd learned to stand up to O'Neill, it was too late, we were massively in the shit and have now spent five years paying for it (although it's not only that money thing which has caused this, there have been other chunks of incompetence, too).

He's a nice bloke and he had a go for a few years, but even an impartial observer would look at the quarter of a billion he blew on us and wonder what level of incompetence it would take to manage to do that and end up in the horrible state we've been in for five years now.

The evidence is damning.

All this 'force him out' stuff is beyond parody, though. You can not force someone to sell something if nobody wants to buy it. It's really that simple.

Spot on. We actually had some ability for a short period in the early days, but then it became apparent that Lerner preferred his mates around him rather than anybody with half a clue, so ended up with the most over-promoted customer services manager ever in Faulkner, and General Krulak who was a nice guy and a decent bloke to have if you were drinking in a rough pub, but who mistook US yee ha corporate nonsense for actual knowledge about English football.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #231 on: December 18, 2015, 11:53:19 PM »
anyone with any decent money would have bought it by now and wouldn't be hanging around for the price to drop like its a black Friday bargain

we could be in deeper shit if someone buys the club because it was at a bargain basement price and has nothing to invest in the team only by borrowing even more cash against the club asset

 

That was my point yesterday when people reckons he couldn't give a shit. I'm sure he could part with it easily enough. Selling to the right person is the main thing.
not really, the Leveraged Buyers can not get near the asking price based on current valuation, so he has not had that choice.

How do you know that for a fact? How do you know that they met the asking price but needed to borrow it? Doug turned down offers because of that. Besides, no-one really knows what the asking price is, it's all speculation.
i work in investment banking, lots of people know what the asking price is, they just don't happen to live in ClampyLand.

Refilling the pie display at the Edward Jones cafeteria does qualify you as working in investment banking.
particularly as they are not involved in Investment Banking.Nice try though.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #232 on: December 19, 2015, 12:24:15 AM »
anyone with any decent money would have bought it by now and wouldn't be hanging around for the price to drop like its a black Friday bargain

we could be in deeper shit if someone buys the club because it was at a bargain basement price and has nothing to invest in the team only by borrowing even more cash against the club asset

 

That was my point yesterday when people reckons he couldn't give a shit. I'm sure he could part with it easily enough. Selling to the right person is the main thing.
not really, the Leveraged Buyers can not get near the asking price based on current valuation, so he has not had that choice.

How do you know that for a fact? How do you know that they met the asking price but needed to borrow it? Doug turned down offers because of that. Besides, no-one really knows what the asking price is, it's all speculation.
i work in investment banking, lots of people know what the asking price is, they just don't happen to live in ClampyLand.

Refilling the pie display at the Edward Jones cafeteria does qualify you as working in investment banking.

Good to see that you are still having to resort to sneering. Nothing changes. The same boring people slagging everyone else off.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #233 on: December 19, 2015, 01:55:19 AM »

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #234 on: December 19, 2015, 04:21:07 AM »
anyone with any decent money would have bought it by now and wouldn't be hanging around for the price to drop like its a black Friday bargain

we could be in deeper shit if someone buys the club because it was at a bargain basement price and has nothing to invest in the team only by borrowing even more cash against the club asset

 

That was my point yesterday when people reckons he couldn't give a shit. I'm sure he could part with it easily enough. Selling to the right person is the main thing.
not really, the Leveraged Buyers can not get near the asking price based on current valuation, so he has not had that choice.

How do you know that for a fact? How do you know that they met the asking price but needed to borrow it? Doug turned down offers because of that. Besides, no-one really knows what the asking price is, it's all speculation.
i work in investment banking, lots of people know what the asking price is, they just don't happen to live in ClampyLand.

Refilling the pie display at the Edward Jones cafeteria does qualify you as working in investment banking.

Good to see that you are still having to resort to sneering. Nothing changes. The same boring people slagging everyone else off.

Yeah, come on all, get a grip. We will be sold at some point. He won't be here forever-i know it's stating the obvious, but it's true.

The last poster is right-on so many threads there are petty arguments, which sidetrack from the original post. People wanting to get the upper hand, to win, to show they know more.

What's the point of fighting amongst ourselves? We have a crap team at present and the club is being ran by people who seem to know fuck all, but let's stick together right now, cheer those underperforming wastes of air on this evening and get three points for Christmas!

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #235 on: December 19, 2015, 04:33:57 AM »
anyone with any decent money would have bought it by now and wouldn't be hanging around for the price to drop like its a black Friday bargain

we could be in deeper shit if someone buys the club because it was at a bargain basement price and has nothing to invest in the team only by borrowing even more cash against the club asset

 

That was my point yesterday when people reckons he couldn't give a shit. I'm sure he could part with it easily enough. Selling to the right person is the main thing.
not really, the Leveraged Buyers can not get near the asking price based on current valuation, so he has not had that choice.

How do you know that for a fact? How do you know that they met the asking price but needed to borrow it? Doug turned down offers because of that. Besides, no-one really knows what the asking price is, it's all speculation.
i work in investment banking, lots of people know what the asking price is, they just don't happen to live in ClampyLand.

Refilling the pie display at the Edward Jones cafeteria does qualify you as working in investment banking.

Good to see that you are still having to resort to sneering. Nothing changes. The same boring people slagging everyone else off.

If it bothers you so much why did you come back? Are you going to be just as bitter at everything again?

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #236 on: December 19, 2015, 09:39:54 AM »
Tom Fox, "we're building something special here"

Oh do fuck off, Tom.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #237 on: December 19, 2015, 09:47:10 AM »
Tom Fox, "we're building something special here"

Oh do fuck off, Tom.

You ask them to speak, they speak, you swear at them.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #238 on: December 19, 2015, 09:59:16 AM »
Tom Fox, "we're building something special here"

Oh do fuck off, Tom.

You ask them to speak, they speak, you swear at them.

They've been insulting the fans for years. They deserve everything they get.

"Building something special". Jesus wept.

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Re: Tom Fox's meeting with Supporters
« Reply #239 on: December 19, 2015, 10:44:45 AM »
Tom Fox, "we're building something special here"

Oh do fuck off, Tom.

You ask them to speak, they speak, you swear at them.

They've been insulting the fans for years. They deserve everything they get.

"Building something special". Jesus wept.

You really shouldn't take it so personally.

 


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