Southampton vs. Villa Post Match Thread

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We weren't atrocious today and that's what Garde needs to hammer home.

[saunders_heroes]

We're an awful team, I know that, but let's not pretend there won't be many more twists and turns before the season ends. I'm not throwing in the towel just yet, thanks.
Stay in touch till January, let Garde get a few of his players in and you never know.

[SoccerHQ]

We weren't atrocious today and that's what Garde needs to hammer home.

We could've easily been 3-0 down in 20 minutes just like last year though.

A point is decent as we didn't deserve anything really but can anyone see this squad getting another 30 points, we have no chance.

[PaulWinch again]

Inportant point to keep us in touch. Need to just keep gaining on teams.

[Toronto Villa]

We're an awful team, I know that, but let's not pretend there won't be many more twists and turns before the season ends. I'm not throwing in the towel just yet, thanks.
Stay in touch till January, let Garde get a few of his players in and you never know.

Yep I'm with you all the way. Garde is really limited in his options right now. The back four and goalkeeper are a huge liability. He needs to get that fixed sharpish and add some strength to the midfield. We need 4 additions in January. 4 good additions that will cost a bit no doubt but which pales in significance the money we'd lose by not doing it.

And honest to goodness Richardson, Westwood and Gestede are just hideous.

[nodge]

According to their manager they played better today in that initial 20 minutes than they did at the end of last season when they went 4-0 up.  It's a decent point and if (and it's a massive if) we could somehow get 4 points from our next 2 games, I reckon we'd only be 2 or 3 points from safety, looking at who the others around us have got to play in their next 2.

I admire the optimism but we've been atrocious in almost every game since Leicester.
Not just poor football, calamitous.

I've not seen a poorer team in the league.

Believe me I've spent this week accepting what life is going to be like in the 2nd tier, almost having a strange feeling of looking forward to it.  It just seems that the teams around us are doing their best to stay within touching distance of us and Swansea seem to be dropping like a stone.

[frank]

I'm on the train with Pompey fans, who are relieved that they've just beaten Accrington 1-0. Will this be us in a few seasons?

Obviously it was pleasing to get a point and the team deserve credit for a battling performance in the 2nd half. In the 1st half we were completely outplayed and I was sure that, even if we scored, we'd still end up being well beaten. This time we didn't cave in, and that's encouraging.

But we were lucky. The game should have been over by half time, as it was when we were last there in the league. Southampton wasted chance after chance. On another day or against a better team the  defensive mistakes would have been punished.

We never looked like winners, and haven't for some time. We've said often enough that Gestede isn't a PL player but most of the others are average at best. Without reinforcements we will go down. We need players who can do more than battle. We need players who can win games.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm on the train with Pompey fans, who are relieved that they've just beaten Accrington 1-0. Will this be us in a few seasons?

Obviously it was pleasing to get a point and the team deserve credit for a battling performance in the 2nd half. In the 1st half we were completely outplayed and I was sure that, even if we scored, we'd still end up being well beaten. This time we didn't cave in, and that's encouraging.

But we were lucky. The game should have been over by half time, as it was when we were last there in the league. Southampton wasted chance after chance. On another day or against a better team the  defensive mistakes would have been punished.

We never looked like winners, and haven't for some time. We've said often enough that Gestede isn't a PL player but most of the others are average at best. Without reinforcements we will go down. We need players who can do more than battle. We need players who can win games.

It's a bit of jump isn't it to go from bottom of the PL in December to broke and in league 2?

[Malandro]

We weren't atrocious today and that's what Garde needs to hammer home.

We could've easily been 3-0 down in 20 minutes just like last year though.

Add another five decent chances and a couple of ridiculous balls ups.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the point!

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We weren't atrocious today and that's what Garde needs to hammer home.

We could've easily been 3-0 down in 20 minutes just like last year though.

A point is decent as we didn't deserve anything really but can anyone see this squad getting another 30 points, we have no chance.

We got exactly what we deserved. Until they start awarding goals for sticking it over the bar or points for having 20 minutes of good pressure without capitalising, then its little more than could have would have.

They could have been  two up against Liverpool, but they got what they deserved.

[brontebilly]

I'd be hoping/praying for the defence to look like this.

New keeper
New leftback
Richards right back
Okore
New centre back

Any combination of the current defenders look like a comedy act, we need leaders and a physical prescence at the back. Starting with replacing the clown Guzan.

Sinclair works hard for the team defensively helping but has become completely anonymous going forward, if we had more solid full backs then Traore for Sinclair would seem a nailed on easy decision but our wide areas are such a weakness I can see why the manager won't commit to playing someone who won't help back so much.

The stuff about the back four is another thing that annoys me about Sherwood's "legacy". Senderos, if fit, has been left unavailable for selection til January. Couple that with the decision to send Baker out on a season-long loan (when there was a rumour over the summer of the stripeys being interested in Clark, I'd have let him go, and kept Baker. Baker had played well at the tail end of last season. And, for me, he plays like someone that thinks they're a centre-half. Clark, on the other, annoys the shit out of me, because he plays like he's under the misguided belief that he's a footballer). We weren't exactly blessed with options at the back, so those two decisions are coming back to give us at least a little nibble on the arse.

Revisionist nonsense, Nathan Baker is a poor defender, sent off today for Bristol, and made of glass. Senderos is also awful, injury prone, ridiculously slow and wasn't arsed even getting himself a loan move last summer.

The answers to our defensive woes are not bringing back any of the defenders who we have out on loan. Cissokho, Bennett - two other dreadful defenders.

Clark for all his faults has been our best defender over the past 12 months. He was shocking for Watford's third goal but Okore/Clark is our best bet at centre half.

[frank]

I'm on the train with Pompey fans, who are relieved that they've just beaten Accrington 1-0. Will this be us in a few seasons?

Obviously it was pleasing to get a point and the team deserve credit for a battling performance in the 2nd half. In the 1st half we were completely outplayed and I was sure that, even if we scored, we'd still end up being well beaten. This time we didn't cave in, and that's encouraging.

But we were lucky. The game should have been over by half time, as it was when we were last there in the league. Southampton wasted chance after chance. On another day or against a better team the  defensive mistakes would have been punished.

We never looked like winners, and haven't for some time. We've said often enough that Gestede isn't a PL player but most of the others are average at best. Without reinforcements we will go down. We need players who can do more than battle. We need players who can win games.

It's a bit of jump isn't it to go from bottom of the PL in December to broke and in league 2?

I'm not saying that we'll go all the way down immediately but I worry that if we do get relegated we won't go straight back up as we did in 1988. And once we get stuck in the 2nd tier,  when the revenue diminishes and we can no longer attract good players, we could end up falling further. Of course I don't want this to happen but I don't agree with those who say that if we go down we'll come back stronger. There are plenty of big clubs who are stuck in the lower leagues.

[PeterWithesShin]

And none of those 'big' clubs are anywhere near the size of us.

[Malandro]

We weren't atrocious today and that's what Garde needs to hammer home.

We could've easily been 3-0 down in 20 minutes just like last year though.

A point is decent as we didn't deserve anything really but can anyone see this squad getting another 30 points, we have no chance.

We got exactly what we deserved. Until they start awarding goals for sticking it over the bar or points for having 20 minutes of good pressure without capitalising, then its little more than could have would have.

We are bottom because most of the time you do get punished.

[oldham_villa]

Meanwhile Bournemouth are winning 😂😂😂😂