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Online kippaxvilla2

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Comparisons with 1986-87
« on: November 29, 2015, 12:40:41 AM »
A good team (in them days great) was dismantled within five years of being successful.

In the relegation season a manager was sacked in the early part of it.  I have looked it up Graham Turner was sacked in September 1986.

In theory we thought we had a good team but couldn't defend to save our lives despite having a young Keown in defence.

Differences.

We aren't regularly being battered now we seemed to be in that season.

There was a new manager bounce when McBungle joined albeit it lasted about 5 games

Any other similarities?

Online kippaxvilla2

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2015, 12:42:31 AM »
A good team (in them days great) was dismantled within five years of being successful.

In the relegation season a manager was sacked in the early part of it.  I have looked it up Graham Turner was sacked in September 1986.

In theory we thought we had a good team but couldn't defend to save our lives despite having a young Keown in defence.

Lots of people thought the owner was to blame.

Differences.

We aren't regularly being battered now we seemed to be in that season.

There was a new manager bounce when McBungle joined albeit it lasted about 5 games

Any other similarities?

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2015, 01:12:53 AM »
We felt optimistic going into the season. Felt we'd bought well, got injuries early on to key new signings (Neale Cooper). Never recovered.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2015, 07:58:23 AM »
I'd say this team is actually worse than 86-87!

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2015, 08:16:59 AM »
The main similarity is that both chairmen tried to do things on the cheap.  Possibly the Neale Cooper injury  parallels Amavi too.


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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2015, 08:21:50 AM »
Yellow away kit.

Offline Steve67

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2015, 08:58:10 AM »
The air of inevitability? From very early on, despite the optimism that we might turn a corner, we knew we would be relegated, this is how I feel now. Jeez, I hope I'm wrong. Both the 86/87 squad and the current squad have/had good players but it counts for shit if you don't score enough goals or defend properly.

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2015, 08:58:57 AM »
Great draw in the new managers first game (3-3 away at Liverpool in 86), then pretty much nothing else to cheer from then on...

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2015, 09:31:49 AM »
If we get beaten by 5 at Southampton next week that'll be another similarity. 

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2015, 09:47:42 AM »
If we get beaten by 5 at Southampton next week that'll be another similarity. 

I was there. Dowie ruined us. I was at the game Des Little mentioned as well, at Anfield. 4-2 at Watford, Barnes ruined us. That was the day they opened their new stand. Elton John on the pitch. Good fun, going up and down the country to watch them, but, knowing we were doomed.

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2015, 09:50:57 AM »
We had better players in 86-87. However we also had the Biggest Don't Give a Shit Managerbin Our History.

Utter utter wanker. Turner was out of his depth, McNeill was just a Lazy Cretin.

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2015, 09:51:05 AM »
One big difference: we still getting three times as many people in the ground.

Offline Charlie8182

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2015, 09:54:46 AM »
McNeill actually had a reasonable start, 3-3 at Liverpool, away win at Coventry and home wins against Southampton, Newcastle and Leicester, then we lost 3-1 at Man City and barely won another game all season.  We weren't relegated until the final home game, think we'll be gone well before then this time.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2015, 10:09:29 AM »
One big difference: we still getting three times as many people in the ground.
Possibly the most remarkable stat of all, that. We regularly get 30,000 plus despite our position and despite the shit over the last five years.

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...and home wins against Southampton, Newcastle and Leicester...
How we'd kill for those sort of results now.

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Re: Comparisons with 1986-87
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2015, 10:16:01 AM »
The smell at the club is worse than 86.

 


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