Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread

[wittonwarrior]

Senderos is not good  enough.  We need  fresh  blood in the transfer market, where from I have no  idea (in terms of players  themselves or money).

In  my head I am already preparing for what I call Div 2.  I think by hook or by crook we will come straight back up, the problem will be if we don't - seems a common issue with teams relegated  no matter to what level.

[KevinGage]

Clampy really has got his arse in his hand tonight, hasn't he?

And he's 100% right. We are feeling utterly shit. Just in different ways. There's nobody on here though that feels that more than anyone else. That's the point he was making.

He seemed to jump on Brian for a seemingly innocuous comment.

I hate all that 'better fan than yow/ laptop brigade' pish, but it was pretty obvious BG wasn't doing that.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I woke at 3 am this morning, checked the score on my phone and spent the next hour and a half staring at the ceiling coming to terms with our relegation.

It's wretched and has been for years. I'm sick of the humiliation. The Championship cannot, cannot be worse than this has been.

Think about it, we've been statistically the worst professional football team in England over the last 5 seasons. Fuck the division, I just want a competitive team again. I've had enough of this shit.

Same here. I am not convinced our relegation is going to make things better though, it is entirely possible we follow many illustrious clubs and just dissapear from the top flight for decades.

[villan from luton]

I really dont know how relegation would make things better, given the TV money

[German James]

I really dont know how relegation would make things better

I'm going to be selfish and say that it would certainly help me, if we were able to play against teams we could actually compete with, week in, week out.

I'm hoping it would mean me getting some pleasure out of supporting the Villa again. For the last few years I've been following them out of a mixture of grim tradition and some sort of weird sense of duty. Fans are fucking idiots!

[OzVilla]

I really dont know how relegation would make things better, given the TV money

If we can use it as a circuit breaker for the club.

If we can come back up first time, if we can change the mentality surrounding the club to a winning one after a successful season, galvanize the fan base and give us back some purpose, turning over a few local rivals in the process. In that scenario relegation could be prove to be for the better.

I accept it's a big IF mind.

[robbo1874]

We need to win half of our remaining games to stay up. That is not going to happen.

That's total tosh we only need to win 11 not twelve, 38 points would be enough

i reckon 34/35 may be enough to stay up. Along with ourselves, there's some shit down there at the bottom.

[robbo1874]

I really dont know how relegation would make things better, given the TV money

If we can use it as a circuit breaker for the club.

If we can come back up first time, if we can change the mentality surrounding the club to a winning one after a successful season, galvanize the fan base and give us back some purpose, turning over a few local rivals in the process. In that scenario relegation could be prove to be for the better.

I accept it's a big IF mind.

the Taylor 2nd Division season was my first one I was allowed to go by myself. I really enjoyed it, but doubt I would as much these days if we do go down.

[mr underhill]

it's amazing how quickly you adapt to change. if this is our fate this season then so be it. It won't prove a deal breaker to fans who have supported the club all their lives . I have carried a few lifelong passions with me, Villa being one, and no matter how disenchanted I get with them from time to time, they never leave you. Whatever happens next season is another chapter in the book of Aston Villa and we all know deep down that as soon as the first kick off happens we'll be checking scores.

[Hookeysmith]

I thought we played well going forward at times. There was evidence of training ground work with inventiveness on corners and the free kick for goal was excellent. I like garde and think he will be a decent manager.
Although the defence were awful again we really must have a turn of luck soon. Every single mistake is seemingly punished with a goal.
I was pleased that the majority of fans stayed when the 3rd went in. All of us staying together is our only hope and until it is mathematicaly impossible we have to remain hopeful.

[Billy Walker]

The circuit breaker we need is Randy Lerner leaving the club.  He is simply a very poor owner of sports clubs.

[Billy Walker]

I thought we played well going forward at times. There was evidence of training ground work with inventiveness on corners and the free kick for goal was excellent. I like garde and think he will be a decent manager.
Although the defence were awful again we really must have a turn of luck soon. Every single mistake is seemingly punished with a goal.
I was pleased that the majority of fans stayed when the 3rd went in. All of us staying together is our only hope and until it is mathematicaly impossible we have to remain hopeful.

Spot on.  While everyone is writing us off we have to stick together and believe.  The bookies rate our chances of staying up as similar odds to Fury winning last night.  Anything can happen and we have six months of a season left.

[postal]

We need to win half of our remaining games to stay up. That is not going to happen.

That's total tosh we only need to win 11 not twelve, 38 points would be enough

i reckon 34/35 may be enough to stay up. Along with ourselves, there's some shit down there at the bottom.

I can't see us getting 24 points, let alone 34.

[Ron Manager]

Morning everyone.At this moment if I was Remi Garde I would think I had taken on too much.If we manage to stay up it would be a veritable miracle with the players available to him.What I will say about yesterday is that Jordan Ayew continued his recent improvement and that's about it really.If as it appears he doesn't have full control of team matters he might as well resign and go home.As we all know this dire situation we find ourselves in is entirely down to the club owner who to be fair to him has stated he wants to sell but cannot find a buyer at the price he wants.
To be honest if the situation stays the same I think we will struggle in the second division or Championship next season .it's a gloomy outlook for our club I'm afraid.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Just watching the goals again on MOTD.

Richardson plays the player onside for the first and second - and then (along with Clark) stood like a statue for the third . He's a complete liability .

And - not sure if this has been covered - why did we kick toward the Holte end first half . Richards must have won the toss as Watford had kick off . Seen other teams turn us round - but never us decide to kick the other way .