Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread

[PeterWithesShin]

7 hours each way from London to Brum? Did you borrow a satnav from Mr RedSox? 

[Clampy]

Again, it was another game where we wasn't really that bad but suicidal defending has cost us again. How many shots did they have on goal for example? And somehow they've managed to score three. It's shambolic, frustrating and for us to stay up, it needs to stop.

[KevinGage]

Troy Deeney must brush his teeth with bricks. The c*nt.

[Walmley_Villa]

Worst thing is that it is the experienced players that are letting us down. That back 5 have years of experience, there is no excuse for the shocking defending.

[rob_bridge]

Worst thing is that it is the experienced players that are letting us down. That back 5 have years of experience, there is no excuse for the shocking defending.

Its a good observation. All of them internationals too.

[four fornicholl]

Why are you yet again trying to find fault with me for no reason? "Just in, 14 hours on the road" is a casual good evening and an explanation why it is page 19 of the thread before I can contribute. Please stop this baseless fault finding.

I contribute occasionally but I have noticed that clampy is a bit of a ''''''''''

[kippaxvilla2]

Ciaran Clark really is fcukin shit at times.

[rob_bridge]

Why are you yet again trying to find fault with me for no reason? "Just in, 14 hours on the road" is a casual good evening and an explanation why it is page 19 of the thread before I can contribute. Please stop this baseless fault finding.

I contribute occasionally but I have noticed that clampy is a bit of a ''''''''''

He is wholly pissed off. See the Lerner thread. Sometimes SH brings that out in persons.  No need to have a go at Brian mind.

[PeterWithesShin]

How about we stop the insults and that way we don't have to worry about banning anybody.

[Toronto Villa]

I make no claim for my journey being out of the ordinary, just a casual greeting to friends on here who know my age and the effort involved for me. Try not to sneer at harmless trifles.

It wasn't so much a 'sneer' but an acknowledgement that there are plenty of us who make an effort and are just as hurting tonight, regardless of the miles traveled.

The pain of defeat today, of this season, and of the past few years is just as sharp thousands of miles away in Toronto. I can assure everyone of that. Whether you live on Trinity Road or anywhere else in the world, and you love Aston Villa this is very hard to watch and take in.

[olaftab]

Just home. 14 hours on the road.  We keep conceding soft stupid goals.  There is no limit on how far we can fall until we stop doing it. Our general play today was largely encouraging but out defending continues to be embarrassingly shambolic.

I have utmost respect for fans like yourself Brian. I don't know how you do it? Today doing the 7.5 miles from Whitehead Road to my house was an ordeal!

[john2710]

Confidence & good luck have as much impact as quality.
Big Sam rolls up in Sunderland & they win 3 out of 6. Two of those were against 10 men, included a dodgy penalty & a gift from Palace our defence would be proud of.

I'm convinced we have the basis of a decent side, with the exception of Gestede, it's not the new players who are costing us. It's the ones who were already here; Clark, Richardson, Hutton, Guzan, Gabby, Westwood that are letting us down.

[BC54 VFC]

Clampy really has got his arse in his hand tonight, hasn't he?

[dave.woodhall]

Clampy really has got his arse in his hand tonight, hasn't he?

No more than a few others have.

[footyskillz]

Sanchez was often caught in possession or giving ball away. Credit to him picking up ball off the defence or guzan but he seems to lose his head and gets flustered. The pace of the game seems to throw him. There's also the dilemma of Hutton. He's decent spiritied efforts going forward are often undermined by both his failure as an attacking player and final ball and his defensive errors. I imagine he's quite dissolution by it all. Time again he's been the ot ball the man in space . For at least the next 9 matches to end of jan,which will define our season, a wide player on right must be played. Bacuna , Sinclair , Traore, Agbonlahor ,Grealish, Ayew need to play here and need to be given width . i also seriosuksy consider  Richards /Bacuna at right back moving forward if a wide player isntv positions on right side midfield. Gil is desparetly short of confidence and despite his ball skills constantly has to cut inside and is too much one footed. Clark today was lost with the third caughtvflat footed. Richards had a vardry style celebration and it seemed too much about him. He's quite hot headed and the third goal seemed fuming and lost for words. I'm glad he scored and hope he makes more goals and defends better and cuts the Tim Sherwood style comments out . Villa actually were unlucky in parts however it was mentioned that defending was last ditch. The goals conceded were really very poor an I think it was a case of anxiety and magnitude of the match. Previously against man city the same defenders put in a performance that lives depended on. Clark throwing himself into challenges , Hutton blocking and were showing for the cause. So in that respect their is hope. I think veretout is really coming along as is ayew. Throw in traore and grealish with sinlcair up front with ayew.
I think the defeat really is shocking and illustrates the difficulty in getting a win. Glimpses have been shown and a momentum and run in the next 9matches can only save the villa from championship football.
Unexpected things can happen in football in all levels in game. It's also noted that predictable things can happen too. However today showed that a 2-3 away win was unexpected score line by both sets of fans, pundits and people watching the game. So called stats and facts pointed to little goals but villa created and could have score more than two today. Let's hope football remains unpredicatbale and that some how , some where villa get several points over the next several matches.