Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread

[aj2k77]

We will be too far adrift come mid January anyway. So who's going to come to a team with about 12 points, 10 points from Safety.... chancers looking for a quick buck, they won't be up for the fight and will have one eye on the Summer and getting another move. We are fucked this time, I just don't see a realistic way out of it. 5 pts after 14 games, 5 measly pts. We aren't even close to being a half decent side. Their is massive weakness all over the pitch. Fullbacks, terrible. Goalkeeper a disaster. Centre backs, clangers waiting to happen. Midfield much of a nothingness, Strikers, we don't have any.

[CT]

How low we have sunk, a national laughing stock. Nailed on relegation with record lowest points, that will be Lerners legacy. They should be ashamed of themselves from top to bottom. They don't deserve our support. We will recover but get ready for much much more pain. I said at the start of the season this is the worst team since billy McBingo and I think they've topped them. The frightening thing is that they are the best players we've got so eleven points look daunting.

Been saying this - I cant see how we'll get 11 points. Another record smashed.

[GarTomas]

Randy needs to show some fucking accountability for his stewardship of the club. He better get his wallet out in January. Because it will be some legacy he is going to leave behind.

This. It comes to the point where he has to look at his desire to sell the club, the price he will get, the money he has and continues to lose and the legacy he wants to leave.

[saunders_heroes]

The thing you can't even say (at best) we've been unlucky to find us in such a perilous position. If you've spent the last 5 years selling your best players, replacing them with inferior ones whilst promoting youth players who are simply not good enough for the Premier League then sticking labels on them like "young and hungry" to fool the fans into thinking there's something magical about to happen.
No, this is all down to Lerner not wanting to pay the going rate for PL players. Decent players go where the wages are, and all we've done for the last 5 or so years is to hack at our wage bill with a sledge hammer.
Lerner is the sole cause of our humiliating decline. You reap what you sow, and all that.

[saunders_heroes]

The only thing that keep me going is that it is still November. Outside of that little bits of my remaining hope dies weekly.

True but let's face it we'll probably be bottom at Christmas, and we all know what that means.

[ChicagoLion]

Randy needs to show some fucking accountability for his stewardship of the club. He better get his wallet out in January. Because it will be some legacy he is going to leave behind.

This. It comes to the point where he has to look at his desire to sell the club, the price he will get, the money he has and continues to lose and the legacy he wants to leave.

Its too late, the smartest thing he can do is start preparing the squad to get out of the Championship.

[Monty]

The thing you can't even say (at best) we've been unlucky to find us in such a perilous position. If you've spent the last 5 years selling your best players, replacing them with inferior ones whilst promoting youth players who are simply not good enough for the Premier League then sticking labels on them like "young and hungry" to fool the fans into thinking there's something magical about to happen.
No, this is all down to Lerner not wanting to pay the going rate for PL players. Decent players go where the wages are, and all we've done for the last 5 or so years is to hack at our wage bill with a sledge hammer.
Lerner is the sole cause of our humiliating decline. You reap what you sow, and all that.

The blame is ultimately his, but if you don't blame crappy managers for being crappy then you're just being reductionist. These players are not going to win the league, but 8 defeats from 10 was a startlingly shocking return for any manager.

[Goldie.7]

1 win in 14, remember when it was 1 in 4/5. Fuck me... those were the days.

[kippaxvilla2]

Anyone hear Pat Murphy earlier?  Said that Riley interviewed Moyes in Spain and he wanted the job but Riley had doubts that he would want too much control.  Don't know whether it is true or not but terrible if it is.

[Monty]

Anyone hear Pat Murphy earlier?  Said that Riley interviewed Moyes in Spain and he wanted the job but Riley had doubts that he would want too much control.  Don't know whether it is true or not but terrible if it is.

Moyes would have been no better than Garde in possibly worse. I don't think, at long last, that the current manager is the problem.

[steamer]

I do not go along with the Moyes story.
Whoever is here can only work with what he has got.
If Moyes does go to Newcastle he probably has a more experienced squad to turn around than Remi has.
Most of us welcomed the new blood in the close season, but I guess the bookies know more than us when they made us favorite's for the drop.
Keep the faith. Give the guy a chance.
Lets hope we can keep in touch until (I hope we know who) replacements come in in Jan.
My views on Randy could take up a post on their own but, trusting, naïve, well meaning, should  never be let near a sports team. come to mind

[VinnieChase84]

The thing you can't even say (at best) we've been unlucky to find us in such a perilous position. If you've spent the last 5 years selling your best players, replacing them with inferior ones whilst promoting youth players who are simply not good enough for the Premier League then sticking labels on them like "young and hungry" to fool the fans into thinking there's something magical about to happen.
No, this is all down to Lerner not wanting to pay the going rate for PL players. Decent players go where the wages are, and all we've done for the last 5 or so years is to hack at our wage bill with a sledge hammer.
Lerner is the sole cause of our humiliating decline. You reap what you sow, and all that.

This! When wolves went down a few seasons ago to league 1 and it all turned nasty on the pitch after the final whistle. I can see scenes like that at our place at last home game.
We're done for. We are not going to get 35 points from half a season of matches. That's champions league form for the season.
I don't see RL giving us any money in Jan either

[Villa Lew]

Home games against Sunderland, Albion, Stoke, Swansea, Watford return 1 point.

Pathetic.

[aj2k77]

The thing you can't even say (at best) we've been unlucky to find us in such a perilous position. If you've spent the last 5 years selling your best players, replacing them with inferior ones whilst promoting youth players who are simply not good enough for the Premier League then sticking labels on them like "young and hungry" to fool the fans into thinking there's something magical about to happen.
No, this is all down to Lerner not wanting to pay the going rate for PL players. Decent players go where the wages are, and all we've done for the last 5 or so years is to hack at our wage bill with a sledge hammer.
Lerner is the sole cause of our humiliating decline. You reap what you sow, and all that.

We've jumped from a summer of buying players from Doncaster, Sheff Utd, Crewe and the French second division to a summer buying semi retired no hopers like Cole, Senderos and Richardson to a summer buying players almost entirely from smaller French teams. It's been a disaster, the transfer policy has been a total failure.

[kippaxvilla2]

Anyone hear Pat Murphy earlier?  Said that Riley interviewed Moyes in Spain and he wanted the job but Riley had doubts that he would want too much control.  Don't know whether it is true or not but terrible if it is.

Moyes would have been no better than Garde in possibly worse. I don't think, at long last, that the current manager is the problem.

I will have a fiver with you that if he goes to Newcastle he will save them from relegation.