Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread

[PhilVill]

Yep. The man doesn't give a flying fuck, that is until he realises the financial reality of a few seasons in the lower leagues.

I'm convinced Learner thinks there is no relegation from the PL and the knob heads at the top are terrified to tell him

[mrfuse]

I'm just speechless.

I wish I didn't care but I do and even that's being slowly eroded away.

[richard moore]

Randy needs to show some fucking accountability for his stewardship of the club. He better get his wallet out in January. Because it will be some legacy he is going to leave behind.

Randy doesn't give a shit mate. Surely you know that by now?

I really, really want to disagree with you. Not only do I not have the energy but I'd be fucking wrong.

But you can't TV, because he doesn't. Not only does he not give a shit, but he's as thick as pig shit. So he probably doesn't even know he doesn't give a shit.

[supertom]

Should we all grab a villa shirt out our closet, shit on it, wrap it up and send it via courier to Randy's office? He's never there so by the time he finally gets into his office he'll be greeted by the stink of 6 months of rotting turds.

The club is screwed. We have no leadership at the top. It's now apparent that no manager is going to be able to work in the way that Randolph will expect. We're run by business men who don't give two shits about the club, nor have any idea whatsoever as to how to run a football club.

The playing squad has been decimated and stripped of almost all quality. There's about half a dozen reasonable players but no one who you could comfortably call top 10 quality. In Grealish and Troare, and possibly Ayew, there is potential, but what we don't have is decent experienced players. Gabby is a disgrace to the shirt and he's our senior statesman. Beyond him there is Richards who is a potentially good right back masquerading as an accident waiting to happen in the centre. Any other players we have with 100+ prem games are either bang average or piss poor.

Up front we have almost no threat. At the back we have no stability. Guzan is fucked.

No character. No fire. No passion. No one cares. No one tears the ground up to pull us out of the mire. No one on the pitch fires rockets up the backsides of the feckless fuckers who keep stealing a living in our clubs shirts. It's actually monumentally depressing that a player like Robbie Savage would actually improve our team (were this 2005). And I'm not kidding. He would. At least he had passion with his shitness. I've never known such a dull, characterless and unlikeable villa side. And it's not even that we've bought assholes, it's that we've bought total non-entities. In some cases players who you would have to attack with an electric cattle prod just to check they're still breathing. Almost all of the c***s to a man are the sort who disappear at the office party and you forget entirely are there, and they're not even doing anything exciting like shagging the receptionist in the stationary cupboard, they're just idly sighing in a corner and counting the pencils. We need Ian Taylors', Gareth Barry's, John Carew's, even a Reo-Fucking-Coker would help us right now. Players who might rouse the troops. Players who might inspire with consistency or effort, or a player who might produce moments of mercurial brilliance like Carew did (Traore, Grealish, Gil and Ayew may potentially, but have a long way to go). I hate almost all the bastards.

As for the manager. I feel sorry for him. Maybe we've approached this the wrong way though. Maybe it was too late/too soon for the quiet, reasoned and contemplative manager. Perhaps what we need was a screaming, obnoxious and maniacal bastard to come in and pelt this lot with tea-cups. Maybe a Pearson or similar. Some ass-kicking. Sherwood, though obnoxious and self obsessed seemed to have lost interest and didn't seem like he was dishing out the ass batterings that the majority of this squad need. The fact is that for years players have been getting away with it here. That's not been typified more than with Tubby Flab-bonlahor . Complete and utter pirate. Mugging the club of millions to fill his gut.

I'm possibly a game away from calling it quits as a fan. I just hate football now and I've lost a lot of love for this club in the last 3 years. I've seen bad. I've never had to take such consistent wretchedness though and there seems like no end in sight. I could rewatch O Leary's last season and find it utterly glorious in comparison to this crap.

[villadelph]

Randy needs to show some fucking accountability for his stewardship of the club. He better get his wallet out in January. Because it will be some legacy he is going to leave behind.

He'll probably just cut his losses and sell us to some schmo, wipe his hands clean and pretend none of this ever happened.

I agree with the above post. It's time to plan according for the drop, survival is a pipe dream. Sell your assets before they activate release/relegation clauses.

[Five Villa Tattoos]

On the train home. Hated today, watching my club die before my eyes.
Was there in 1986/87 but this feels worse.

[rob_bridge]

Clark just isn't very good.

He'll be good enough next season. Westwood Lescott Richardson and Gabby still won't be where we are going

[Mossie Hennebry]

We need to win half of our remaining games to stay up. That is not going to happen.

[itbrvilla]

OI hearts on radio that we've only spent £6m net in last 5 years.  That can't be true!?!

[aj2k77]

Does any one think that Lerner will make the right decisions to get us out of the Championship?
I dont, we could be the next Sheffield Wednesday.

I don't think Lerner gives a toss. I'd imagine that if he ever thinks about Villa it is solely to regret ever buying us.

He remembered us when it was cup final time. Chance to schmooze and pretend to be chairman for the day. That day was a little pay back for everything 25,000 loyal fans, who had watched goal less defeat after goal less defeat, a bit of light at the end of the tunnel. It ended in our usual disaster but their was a bit of hope on the way down. He shouldn't have shown his face the ******. When push has come to shove and the seasons have got worse he's turned his back and hasn't shown his face. He shouldn't have been at that Cup Final.

[Richard E]

If anyone else still had their free 'Proud History Bright Future ' scarf I think we should organise an en masse return of them to our custodians.

[rob_bridge]

On the train home. Hated today, watching my club die before my eyes.
Was there in 1986/87 but this feels worse.

There's unlikely to be a Graham Taylor waiting to pick us up this time.

[Monty]

The players do not look brilliant, but I don't think they look like they should be in the position they're in now. There are many worse collections of individuals in the league I think, but no worse-off group of players. Remi Garde is clearly a proper manager, but it's too late.

So, I blame Tim fucking Sherwood and the morons who appointed him. The recruitment strategy was imperfect, but the least perfect thing about it was handing over a large and disparate group of nervous young players to the biggest fraud in the history of football management. Alan Shearer would have been a better choice.

Our lack of joined-up thinking has been a mortal problem for us in recent years (Martinez turns us down? Better be McLeish then - after all, 'M'), but this time it's finally got us relegated. Well done everybody.

[CT]

Should we all grab a villa shirt out our closet, shit on it, wrap it up and send it via courier to Randy's office? He's never there so by the time he finally gets into his office he'll be greeted by the stink of 6 months of rotting turds.

The club is screwed. We have no leadership at the top. It's now apparent that no manager is going to be able to work in the way that Randolph will expect. We're run by business men who don't give two shits about the club, nor have any idea whatsoever as to how to run a football club.

The playing squad has been decimated and stripped of almost all quality. There's about half a dozen reasonable players but no one who you could comfortably call top 10 quality. In Grealish and Troare, and possibly Ayew, there is potential, but what we don't have is decent experienced players. Gabby is a disgrace to the shirt and he's our senior statesman. Beyond him there is Richards who is a potentially good right back masquerading as an accident waiting to happen in the centre. Any other players we have with 100+ prem games are either bang average or piss poor.

Up front we have almost no threat. At the back we have no stability. Guzan is fucked.

No character. No fire. No passion. No one cares. No one tears the ground up to pull us out of the mire. No one on the pitch fires rockets up the backsides of the feckless fuckers who keep stealing a living in our clubs shirts. It's actually monumentally depressing that a player like Robbie Savage would actually improve our team (were this 2005). And I'm not kidding. He would. At least he had passion with his shitness. I've never known such a dull, characterless and unlikeable villa side. And it's not even that we've bought assholes, it's that we've bought total non-entities. In some cases players who you would have to attack with an electric cattle prod just to check they're still breathing. Almost all of the c***s to a man are the sort who disappear at the office party and you forget entirely are there, and they're not even doing anything exciting like shagging the receptionist in the stationary cupboard, they're just idly sighing in a corner and counting the pencils. We need Ian Taylors', Gareth Barry's, John Carew's, even a Reo-Fucking-Coker would help us right now. Players who might rouse the troops. Players who might inspire with consistency or effort, or a player who might produce moments of mercurial brilliance like Carew did (Traore, Grealish, Gil and Ayew may potentially, but have a long way to go). I hate almost all the bastards.

As for the manager. I feel sorry for him. Maybe we've approached this the wrong way though. Maybe it was too late/too soon for the quiet, reasoned and contemplative manager. Perhaps what we need was a screaming, obnoxious and maniacal bastard to come in and pelt this lot with tea-cups. Maybe a Pearson or similar. Some ass-kicking. Sherwood, though obnoxious and self obsessed seemed to have lost interest and didn't seem like he was dishing out the ass batterings that the majority of this squad need. The fact is that for years players have been getting away with it here. That's not been typified more than with Tubby Flab-bonlahor . Complete and utter pirate. Mugging the club of millions to fill his gut.

I'm possibly a game away from calling it quits as a fan. I just hate football now and I've lost a lot of love for this club in the last 3 years. I've seen bad. I've never had to take such consistent wretchedness though and there seems like no end in sight. I could rewatch O Leary's last season and find it utterly glorious in comparison to this crap.

So passionate, I feel your pain mate, I'm sure we all do.

Lets be honest, this current mob are making the 86/87 vintage look like Brazil 1970.

[Rico]

Randy Lerner has one chance, and one chance only to save what little he has left of his tattered reputation.  Spend, spend and spend again in January. Failing that just feck right off and never land in Birmingham again. You make Ellis look like a success you utter buffoon! Proud history,  bright future. Les Miserable more like.