Former PL club Aston Villa 2-3 Watford - post mortem thread

[LTA]

Aston Villa are finished as a Premier League club.  I see no route out of this now.

I'd brace yourself.  It may be a while before we come back.

[Toronto Villa]

How did the Ayew goal and 10 minutes announced for injury time not galvanize us like it would every other team? We managed it in the first half leading to Richard's goal.

Fitness of the players. Not much left after 90 mins.

Sherwood said the same - the fact he said is 3 months after having been in charge was scandalous.

That's a massive improvement. We usually have nothing left after 60 minutes

[Nii Lamptey]

How did the Ayew goal and 10 minutes announced for injury time not galvanize us like it would every other team? We managed it in the first half leading to Richard's goal.

Exactly our problem. As a comparison, Bournemouth put 3 past Everton in the last 10 mins to come away with a draw... the same team that hammered us last week.
I thought we'd definitely be gone if we lost to Watford - The manner of the defeat and results elsewhere scream nailed on relegation now.
See you in another life brothers. 

[GarTomas]

Okore to come in ASAP. Clark standing around for the 3rd looking surprised the Watford player attached the ball.

You're 10 yards out in the middle of the box. You have to assume there will be a player sniffing for a chance.

[lovejoy]

A pigeon has landed in the trampoline in our back garden, it has an injured wing and really wants to fly but can't. The more it tries the more tired it gets and therefore the less chance it has of escaping. It's clearly on its last legs. I may go and put it out of its misery.

This is an allegory of our season.

[rob_bridge]

*sigh*

Some positives to take from the performance but losing to fellow strugglers at home, and letting in three goals in the process, equals we're shit and going down. I can't see any other outcome when looking at what the team has to offer; any decent build-up play is stymied by the fact that we don't have a focus in attack, and the defence is always at sixes and sevens. We can't score more than the opposition and our defence leaks goals. No escape this time, people; this is the end game.

I wish we had 19 points like they do. Struggling they are not

[PaulWinch again]

We in deepest trouble and need to pick up at least 8 points from next 5 games. Can't see it.

We left Lambert in place too long to sign has beens like Richardson and Joe Cole and then give The Mouth on a Stick 3 games too many.

Fucking useless

We are worse than 86-87

I mean we are done, there's just not going to be 8 points in our next 20 games at this rate sadly.

[ChicagoLion]

This is the culmination of serious mis management and a littany of bad appointments.
You can blame players and managers and CEOs yet there is one consistant in all of this.

Come on Down Randy Lerner and look what you have achieved.

[Billy Walker]

We can get out of this.  It's going to take something special between now and  May but we can do it.

[TopDeck113]

What would the sanction be for simply conceding the remainder of games?  We're going down anyway so at least we'd save ourselves another six months of this week-in, week-out. 

The club is a complete mess and there's only one fucker ultimately to blame.  To be an ever-present in the Premier League with the financial rewards that has entailed and to be in this position takes incompetent management of the highest order.  For years to come it will be an object lesson in how not to run a top-flight football club.

[paulcomben]

I fully expect Moyes to take over at Newcastle in the coming days saving their season.

I fully expect Moyes to take over at Newcastle in the coming days saving their season.

When we look back, the fact that the best manager Villa never had was available in our hour of most need will hurt more than any of the other many monumental Fox Lerner fuck ups. Billions of pounds lost & years in the wilderness will be their fuck-ups' legacy.

They're not fuck ups, we just won't pay the going rate for Premier League players, and is why no decent manager worth his salt will touch us with a barge-pole.

When we look back, the fact that the best manager Villa never had was available in our hour of most need will hurt more than any of the other many monumental Fox Lerner fuck ups. Billions of pounds lost & years in the wilderness will be their fuck-ups' legacy.

They're not fuck ups, we just won't pay the going rate for Premier League players, and is why no decent manager worth his salt will touch us with a barge-pole.

But that is my definition of fuck up

[phantom limb]

To be fair we've been shit for such a long time it was always just delaying the inevitable, I feel oddly optimistic about the Championship. We might even win some games there.

I'm not so sure. We have a manager who would have been best hired in the summer of 2014. I'm not sure how he'll do in the league below. How many of the fuckers have got reduced wages written into their contracts if we get relegated? Gabby (and belly) 50k a week?

I am assuming quite a few players will leave, most of them are full internationals and will want to play in a top tier division. We'll buy championship quality players and bumble around in the league until Lerner finally sells.

[Stu]

Why did I buy three tickets for the West Ham game? It's going to be excruciating.

It doesn't mean you see us lose three times, on a positive note

Christmas 2012. I came home from Sweden and went to see us play Chelsea, Spurs, and Wigan.

0-15.

[curiousorange]

I don't think Moyes is a saviour any more than Garde is the problem. The main issue, as it has been for five years, is experienced Premier League players not being able to do the fucking basics right. They can't pass, can't take responsibility for clearing a ball or toe poke a ball three yards over the opposition goal line. Abrogation of responsibility is the rot at the heart of our malaise and it's achingly obvious those players don't trust each other or even think they're any good.

We're screwed, and it's finally going to happen. I just want it over with now so players like Richardson and Westwood will fuck off, we can play some young players or decent Championship acquisitions and Saturdays can maybe be enjoyable again for the first time in over half a decade.

[Toronto Villa]

Randy needs to show some fucking accountability for his stewardship of the club. He better get his wallet out in January. Because it will be some legacy he is going to leave behind.