Everton 4-0 Aston Embarrassing Villa post match thread

[Clampy]

Danny Murphy hit the nail on the head on talk shite this morning. When you get your best result of the season and keep a clean sheet against premier league contenders why make 4 changes? 1 was forced through injury but the others wasn't.  Worrying lack of desire and no sign of the "new manager bounce" worrying times to be a villa fan.

I've just read Sanchez didn't play cos he was tired. Oh please!! A pampered footballer travels 1st class everywhere while someone else does all the work Is "too tired" to do the job he's paid to do. Fucking pathetic.

That's wins most ill thought out post of the day.

Thanks. My excuse is I'm a bit tired after a 3 hour journey in the van Sorry I'll try harder next time.

Sanchez's excuse was a 28 (maybe less) hour round flight with 90 minutes football in between, then landing back in the country on Thursday then travelling to Liverpool and he still played 45 minutes. Still, at least he had some leg room on the plane.

[wittonwarrior]

Our best two players saturday were only on the pitch for 5 mins  McNaught and Morley.

[The Edge]

Danny Murphy hit the nail on the head on talk shite this morning. When you get your best result of the season and keep a clean sheet against premier league contenders why make 4 changes? 1 was forced through injury but the others wasn't.  Worrying lack of desire and no sign of the "new manager bounce" worrying times to be a villa fan.

I've just read Sanchez didn't play cos he was tired. Oh please!! A pampered footballer travels 1st class everywhere while someone else does all the work Is "too tired" to do the job he's paid to do. Fucking pathetic.

That's wins most ill thought out post of the day.

Thanks. My excuse is I'm a bit tired after a 3 hour journey in the van Sorry I'll try harder next time.

Sanchez's excuse was a 28 (maybe less) hour round flight with 90 minutes football in between, then landing back in the country on Thursday then travelling to Liverpool and he still played 45 minutes. Still, at least he had some leg room on the plane.

I take it all back. He's a god damn fuckin hero.

[Lastfootstamper]

I am booked in to first class for a train from Glasgow to Brum. It doesn't mean it isn't still a tiring 4.5 hour skit back just because I have more leg room.

Well we're all different aren't we. I work in construction and have made many 6/7 hour trips in the back of a van to places like Scotland. When we get there its straight to graft no messing. So I seem to be seeing this from a different perspective to other people on here.

Inverness and back inside 24 hours in a Sprinter that couldn't get the seat back quite far enough, with graft in the middle. Did it, but was well fooked for about 36 hours afterwards. Flying to South America and back, playing Argentina, eastwards jetlag, I can imagine the results would be similar. A price to pay for casting the net wider and signing international players.

[Salsa Party Animal]

Shame South America doesn't play on Tuesday night to benefits european based players.

[cheltenhamlion]

Danny Murphy hit the nail on the head on talk shite this morning. When you get your best result of the season and keep a clean sheet against premier league contenders why make 4 changes? 1 was forced through injury but the others wasn't.  Worrying lack of desire and no sign of the "new manager bounce" worrying times to be a villa fan.

I've just read Sanchez didn't play cos he was tired. Oh please!! A pampered footballer travels 1st class everywhere while someone else does all the work Is "too tired" to do the job he's paid to do. Fucking pathetic.

That's wins most ill thought out post of the day.

Thanks. My excuse is I'm a bit tired after a 3 hour journey in the van Sorry I'll try harder next time.

Sanchez's excuse was a 28 (maybe less) hour round flight with 90 minutes football in between, then landing back in the country on Thursday then travelling to Liverpool and he still played 45 minutes. Still, at least he had some leg room on the plane.

I take it all back. He's a god damn fuckin hero.

By way of analogy, try this then.

You have spent 8 hours in the back of a van with the wheel arch seen as the height of comfort. Accompanied by nothing but 3 labourers, a mountain of tools and the leftover carpet from The Gaffers claim for paint damage in his lounge.

You arrive in Scotland for a tough job that should last a week if you hit it hard.

On day one, you anticipate hitting the hod or shovelling sand into a cement mixer for some time. After the journey you won't be at your best but will do the job. Come the 5th day that week you are really struggling to get out of bed and are working at half pace from when you started.

Or would you prefer.....

Get to Scotland and be told you aren't working tonight . The deadline is the same but, tonight, to put you in the right frame of mind, you get 5 pints, the large mixed grill and an extra night in the Premier Inn.

You can't get pissed. You start early tomorrow and have a few tough days ahead.

More likely to stick extra bricks in the hod on days 6-7 when everyone is up against it?

[olaftab]

Has anyone collated any evidence to suggest teams with greater French or Belgian connections faired worse over this weekend gone?

[The Edge]

Danny Murphy hit the nail on the head on talk shite this morning. When you get your best result of the season and keep a clean sheet against premier league contenders why make 4 changes? 1 was forced through injury but the others wasn't.  Worrying lack of desire and no sign of the "new manager bounce" worrying times to be a villa fan.

I've just read Sanchez didn't play cos he was tired. Oh please!! A pampered footballer travels 1st class everywhere while someone else does all the work Is "too tired" to do the job he's paid to do. Fucking pathetic.

That's wins most ill thought out post of the day.

Thanks. My excuse is I'm a bit tired after a 3 hour journey in the van Sorry I'll try harder next time.

Sanchez's excuse was a 28 (maybe less) hour round flight with 90 minutes football in between, then landing back in the country on Thursday then travelling to Liverpool and he still played 45 minutes. Still, at least he had some leg room on the plane.

I take it all back. He's a god damn fuckin hero.

By way of analogy, try this then.

You have spent 8 hours in the back of a van with the wheel arch seen as the height of comfort. Accompanied by nothing but 3 labourers, a mountain of tools and the leftover carpet from The Gaffers claim for paint damage in his lounge.

You arrive in Scotland for a tough job that should last a week if you hit it hard.

On day one, you anticipate hitting the hod or shovelling sand into a cement mixer for some time. After the journey you won't be at your best but will do the job. Come the 5th day that week you are really struggling to get out of bed and are working at half pace from when you started.

Or would you prefer.....

Get to Scotland and be told you aren't working tonight . The deadline is the same but, tonight, to put you in the right frame of mind, you get 5 pints, the large mixed grill and an extra night in the Premier Inn.

You can't get pissed. You start early tomorrow and have a few tough days ahead.

More likely to stick extra bricks in the hod on days 6-7 when everyone is up against it?

Then there's this analogy. Several players who played in the very same game as Sanchez played for their club sides in England and Europe.
Including one Ramiro Funes who played
against us for Everton.
 

[cheltenhamlion]

Ignore everything I point to then. For a more base argument, Sanchez didn't pick the team and didn't declare himself unavailable.

[aj2k77]

I might be stupid but I didn't think Carlos Sanchez played midweek for Colombia or was even in the matchday squad? So isn't/wasn't he injured.

[The Edge]

Ignore everything I point to then. For a more base argument, Sanchez didn't pick the team and didn't declare himself unavailable.

Fair enough.I was only responding to someone earlier who claimed that he was on the bench due to tiredness. I said that I thought that was "fuckin pathetic" and I still do.

[Clampy]

I doubt very much he would have asked not to play. The decision would have been made to leave him out.

[amfy]

Ignore everything I point to then. For a more base argument, Sanchez didn't pick the team and didn't declare himself unavailable.

Fair enough.I was only responding to someone earlier who claimed that he was on the bench due to tiredness. I said that I thought that was "fuckin pathetic" and I still do.

Grade says he was in the bench due to tiredness, so we don't know where that came from. He might have said it, or his tiredness may have been observed.

Whilst I know labouring is very physically demanding, a dropped brick doesn't generally cause 1800 people to scream abuse at you, or potentially cost your employer millions of £££s, so these decisions are made on the basis that his tiredness was judged to leave him less able to do the job effectively for the full shift than others who are equally paid to step in and do the job.

[Desontheholte]

Maybe garde dropped him because he is shite!! And just said he's tired!

[The Edge]

Ignore everything I point to then. For a more base argument, Sanchez didn't pick the team and didn't declare himself unavailable.

Fair enough.I was only responding to someone earlier who claimed that he was on the bench due to tiredness. I said that I thought that was "fuckin pathetic" and I still do.

Grade says he was in the bench due to tiredness, so we don't know where that came from. He might have said it, or his tiredness may have been observed.

Whilst I know labouring is very physically demanding, a dropped brick doesn't generally cause 1800 people to scream abuse at you, or potentially cost your employer millions of £££s, so these decisions are made on the basis that his tiredness was judged to leave him less able to do the job effectively for the full shift than others who are equally paid to step in and do the job.

What's bugging me the most is this. We are in a desperate fight for our very survival. It's a time for all hands to the pumps. We need heroes. Players everywhere managed to play for their clubs after the internationals. We're told he was too tired. If he was injured fair enough.But being tired? Sorry I don't buy that. It's not what the hard working fans who spend their hard earned cash want to hear.