Everton 4-0 Aston Embarrassing Villa post match thread

[Walmley_Villa]

Take the full allocation on away days every/most times and subsidize the tickets to £20 a go.
Maybe even cheaper travel to long distance games

Yes it will cost a few quid but we would mostly get a full away section of support every other week,
bearing in mind we pay N'zog something in the region of 50-65k a week, this would at least be money better spent

I was talking to a Watford fan at work last week and he was moaning that he had to pay £36 quid for his ticket next week. He said that Watford have an agreement with a few clubs in the league whereby they each charge £20 for away fans but Villa didn't agree to the deal. No idea if this is the case but it's a bit miserable of us if true.

Villa normally have this agreement with Swansea and maybe Sunderland. I assume they go for the more distant games, Watford isn't one of them.

[Legion]

Who do you all fancy as the next manager?

Remi Garde.

[curlytailavfc]

who?

[kippaxvilla2]

My initial feeling on Remi is he is exactly the right manager at the wrong time if that makes sense.  Really hope he can turn it round.

[devilla]

I'm cheering myself up by listening to Sunn O))).

Drone metal is far more uplifting that watching us at the moment.

[Marton]

As bad as it was, there might still be some positives.

1) Everton was the favourite to come away with all 3 points. The manner of how that come about wasn't fun to watch  but its still as the expected outcome.
2) Remi might have evaluated a few players, Westwood being one. Doubt he be as thick about it was the Lambert and Sherwood and just drop them for the next one.
3) The sense of urgency  for Watford at home will increase as a consequence of the Everton game. That game is so vital for any chance to turning this season around.

The biggest problem must surely be how to defend on our left side. The Amavi injury was such a kick in the nuts when the backup for him is Richardson. Putting Nzogbia in front of him doesn't help things and Grealish isn't much better at helping defending. Cant see any solutions there. Bacuna and Sinclair might work in some games but that's a long way from solid.

[conman]

I think we shouldn't bother turning up and just hand the hornets the three points now.

but we might win

[conman]

Take the full allocation on away days every/most times and subsidize the tickets to £20 a go.
Maybe even cheaper travel to long distance games

Yes it will cost a few quid but we would mostly get a full away section of support every other week,
bearing in mind we pay N'zog something in the region of 50-65k a week, this would at least be money better spent

I'm not sure it would quite work like that, as nice an idea as it sounds. Besides, people who come on here posting crap like 'Tom Fox don't want us there' forget about the free coach places.

they only do 5 free coaches for certain away matches ,,,,,,,,everton wasnt one of them
when i bought my southampton away ticket the other day i said to the bloke ,,,,,,,,,,any chance of a free coach mate
he said yes but you have to buy your own coat ,,lol only joking
he actually  said there were only 5 free coaches so the answer was no you have to pay full wack
but to be honest i didnt want official travel  anyway ,,,,,althought i would have accepted it if someone twisted my arm
ps
we might have won at goodison park if they had showed they wanted us there by taking the bigger allocation

[rougegorge]

Surely we have a youth team player who Is more competent than the appalling Richardson?

I don't think we have any great prospects at U21 or youth level.

Also, in reports and the football league highlights,  other clubs' promising loanees are often mentioned in despatches , but not ours, unless you include Bennett, Baker, Cissokho. Another indictment of where we are.

[conman]

Surely we have a youth team player who Is more competent than the appalling Richardson?

I don't think we have any great prospects at U21 or youth level.

Also, in reports and the football league highlights,  other clubs' promising loanees are often mentioned in despatches , but not ours, unless you include Bennett, Baker, Cissokho. Another indictment of where we are.

there is lewis kinsella and easah sulliman

[aj2k77]

I've just taken a look and Kinsella is 21 and has played 3 professional matches. Why the fuck hasn't he be sent out on loan anywhere before?

[Clampy]

Take the full allocation on away days every/most times and subsidize the tickets to £20 a go.
Maybe even cheaper travel to long distance games

Yes it will cost a few quid but we would mostly get a full away section of support every other week,
bearing in mind we pay N'zog something in the region of 50-65k a week, this would at least be money better spent

I'm not sure it would quite work like that, as nice an idea as it sounds. Besides, people who come on here posting crap like 'Tom Fox don't want us there' forget about the free coach places.

they only do 5 free coaches for certain away matches ,,,,,,,,everton wasnt one of them
when i bought my southampton away ticket the other day i said to the bloke ,,,,,,,,,,any chance of a free coach mate
he said yes but you have to buy your own coat ,,lol only joking
he actually  said there were only 5 free coaches so the answer was no you have to pay full wack
but to be honest i didnt want official travel  anyway ,,,,,althought i would have accepted it if someone twisted my arm
ps
we might have won at goodison park if they had showed they wanted us there by taking the bigger allocation

Taking a bigger allocation on saturday wouldn't have made too much difference really. We were beaten by the better team.

[robbo1874]

Take the full allocation on away days every/most times and subsidize the tickets to £20 a go.
Maybe even cheaper travel to long distance games

Yes it will cost a few quid but we would mostly get a full away section of support every other week,
bearing in mind we pay N'zog something in the region of 50-65k a week, this would at least be money better spent

I was talking to a Watford fan at work last week and he was moaning that he had to pay £36 quid for his ticket next week. He said that Watford have an agreement with a few clubs in the league whereby they each charge £20 for away fans but Villa didn't agree to the deal. No idea if this is the case but it's a bit miserable of us if true.

Villa normally have this agreement with Swansea and maybe Sunderland. I assume they go for the more distant games, Watford isn't one of them.

strange Villa wouldn't agree to it, as you'd think we'd have more to gain from the deal as I'm guessing we'd probably take double the number of supporters to Vicarage Rd (3k?) than they'd bring to VP (1500 max?).

[footyskillz]

Garde set up of team led the Everton players to dominate. Granted first 10mins or so shows some defence and organization. However the first goal outlined the problems mainly left side and the clear lack of attacking threat.

In the line up and the first two goals Richardson was exposed due to greaseish not tracking his man. Gill for the first goal didn't track back . The problem with playing those two wide was the discipline in doing defences duties. Coupled this with fact they both showed little attacking threat then it was nt a good performance by either.

In the next game perhaps hutton can go over to left back and bacuna in at right.
I think Richardson showed some fight going forward but was struggling defensively.
Hutton is constantly the main attacking threat and if bacuna can play right back will have better final delivery.
Westwood was either not fit or totally lacking as was off pace and really soft at times.
Veretoot came alive second half but was merely bullish as was ayew who showed most but wants to do it all by self.
I did like ayew desire but his lack of team play was a concern.
Lets hope improvements can come as Everton were outstanding and would have beaten anyone yesterday.

[Ads]

Westwood didn't track either. Two midfield runners get in behind and both are waiting for a tap in.

The system against Man City in the midfield was Sanchez, with Gana and Veretout able to press either side. With Westwood in there, it looked more like a flat three and without the outlet ball, they were pressed back and smothered.

There is probably little we can do about Richardson being in the side for the time being, but we should help him by having Sinclair in front on the left. There is plenty we can do about not having a 4th division player like Westwood anywhere near our midfield.