Everton 4-0 Aston Embarrassing Villa post match thread

[dave.woodhall]

I doubt if there's ever been a group of supporters that have had so much time and effort devoted to them in proportion to their numbers as Brigada. Yes, full credit to them for their displays but they make up about 0.1% of the crowd and 99% don't seem bothered whether they exist or not. The club's attitude to them has hardly any effect on the overall atmosphere.

[Billy Walker]

I can understand both sides of the argument regarding Brigada and fair play to them for what they have tried to do over the past couple of seasons.  Looking at the here and now, what is obvious is that we need our home performances to form the basis of our fightback and in order to do that the Club should be getting its marketing people to liaise with the Trust in order to get some initiative going.  We're five points from safety and we're in November, it's far too early for soul-sapping gallows humour and writing ourselves off.  Every single remaining home match is crucial and all four stands at Villa Park have a part to play in getting the points.  Likewise, we need to be looking at taking as many away as possible, which means the Club needs to look at laying on more free travel.   If we can time such an initiative with a smart, ambitious transfer window we can definitely lift ourselves up the table. 

[dave.woodhall]

I agree with the away travel, but I've always believed that you can't manufacture atmosphere.

[Goldie.7]

Take it Goldie you don't rate our chances of staying up. 

I know its a lot of ifs and buts but take the Leicester game should have seen out, Swansea at home - okay got battered last 15 mins but generally as good or poor as them.  Those 6 points would have had our heads out of the water. Just hope we can blow the necessary bubbles whilst our heads are in the lake.

Seeing how we aren't massively behind points wise, right now I still think we can survive.

[Toronto Villa]

As long as the sides above that are direct opponents in the relegation battle keep operating at our level we have every chance of staying up. Newcastle losing 3-0 at home was a disaster for them. They are praying nobody below them picks up any points. The current cushion to the relegation isn't exactly comforting to them either.

[ChicagoLion]

My silver cloud is that i will be cancelling the rubbish site that is Foxtel and saving myself over one thousand dollars a year. i got out of bed to watch the game and forced myself to sit it out til the end in sympathy with the away support. We are far too lightweight across the park, Gil tries his heart out as does Hutton yes i know he is limited but ten out of ten for effort. Grealish would be fine with better players around him. Did most of us get it wrong thinking that the squad was better than it is?

i didn't and got the usual on here with just about everybody disagreeing with me.

[Billy Walker]

I agree with the away travel, but I've always believed that you can't manufacture atmosphere.

Yes, I agree that atmosphere can't be manufactured and I wouldn't want the club to go down some empty, cringe inducing exercise of lifting morale.  As I say, maybe the Trust could suggest some ideas to the Club. Off the top of my head, it could be something as simple as getting some live music in before kick off or recording a new video to be played before a match starts - anything to subtly change the mindset of everyone supporting Villa.  It could even be something as simple as Fox or Lerner taking their heads out of the sand and communicating a positive message every now and again.

 What I sincerely hope is that the Boardroom don't  think Remi can do this all on his own.  We have a very promising new manager but that alone is not enough, there has to be whole club initiative and belief that we can do this.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't know for certain, but I believe TeeEff has decided that the Trust won't be his mates for a bit. 

[Toronto Villa]

The last thing we need now is more divisions. We need a statement of unity and direction.

[Billy Walker]

I don't know for certain, but I believe TeeEff has decided that the Trust won't be his mates for a bit. 

If that's the case, what a state of affairs.

[Billy Walker]

The last thing we need now is more divisions. We need a statement of unity and direction.

Exactly.  In turn, build some positivity and momentum, time it all right so that new recruitments hit the ground running in January. 

[cheltenhamlion]

Operation Noise round two is something the Trust spoke with the club about a few weeks back. We were told it "isn't conducive to consider until January given the issues on the pitch".

Not all doom and gloom on relations with the club. Tom will be attending the grave rededication tomorrow unless something has changed today.

[berneboy]

Watford drew at Everton. Oh, dear.

[john e]

Take the full allocation on away days every/most times and subsidize the tickets to £20 a go.
Maybe even cheaper travel to long distance games

Yes it will cost a few quid but we would mostly get a full away section of support every other week,
bearing in mind we pay N'zog something in the region of 50-65k a week, this would at least be money better spent

[QuintonVilla]

A lot of Everton fans are saying it's the worst Villa team they've seen in the Premier League era, we're one of the worst teams they've seen there and we're worse than Sunderland. Sums up just how crap we are.

Who are we actually going to beat? Even Watford at home next week I'm not looking at it thinking we'll win that, to be honest I think we'll lose as the pressure on us will be massive.

We've got less points than Derby had at this stage of their 11 point season. Just wow.