Everton 4-0 Aston Embarrassing Villa post match thread

[Nii Lamptey]

Just watched MOTD. I'd put Richardson on gardening leave for the rest of his contract. Absolutely fecking useless! Jogging back without a care in the world every time an Everton player skinned him.... and there were LOTS of those moments.

I think we're gone now. No team has EVER stayed up in the Premiership after this number of games with our points tally. Watford is definitely the litmus test - Lose that and it's time to put the mortgage on relegation.

[A Northern Soul]

I am often accused by friends of having (optimistic) claret & blue eyes but having witnessed that today I am beyond hope. Everton were good but all of the things you would expect from players playing for a new manager were missing - hard work, passion, commitment, self respect, etc. We can stay up but how is beyond me. Simple maths says we will need 31+ points from 25 games, when have we accumulated over a point a game over such a long period? 2009?
If I try and pick a team in my head for next week I can't see many of the 11 from today in it but the alternatives are not any better, even assuming he were to throw in a half fit Okore, a raw Adama and a very rusty Kozak.
Time is very much against us and if we drift through December like this it will take league winning form to keep us up and that just ain't gonna happen, even with my claret & blue eyes.
Very very sad

[Goldie.7]

Did anybody hear that donkey on the post match phone-in banging on about "I thought we would be winning pretty much every game under Garde" and "We needed Gabby"

Jesus Christ, where do these utter morons come from.

[tomd2103]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

Unsurprisingly you've just named their best two and our worst two.

But to be fair, he could name any random two from our team. They're all pretty bad, currently.

Yes this is the worst team I've ever seen.
Worse than 87. It's no good kidding ourselves the players are good enough to stay up and that teams like Newcastle. Sunderland and Bournemouth are so poor that we'll overtake them. We are the team with the poorest set of players.

We are also the team with least amount of fight and discipline in the league. 

[ChicagoLion]

Who is going to want to join a team in this shit?I think it is too late, we will be too many points away when the window opens.
I think we better get used to the idea we are gone.

If it's all the same to you I won't be surrendering just yet.

I would not expect you to.  I was responding to the idea that it is all about Randy getting his cheque book out. Sadly i think it is too late.When you think about the amount of investment that has gone into this club since Randy took over it is scandolous that we are where we are.

[Goldie.7]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

Unsurprisingly you've just named their best two and our worst two.

But to be fair, he could name any random two from our team. They're all pretty bad, currently.

Yes this is the worst team I've ever seen.
Worse than 87. It's no good kidding ourselves the players are good enough to stay up and that teams like Newcastle. Sunderland and Bournemouth are so poor that we'll overtake them. We are the team with the poorest set of players.

Totally agree.

Guzan = Very average
Richards = Awful defender
Clark = Calamity
Richardson = Garbage
Hutton = Never rated him
Westwood = What does he even do?
Sanchez = Hit and miss
Veretout = see above
Gueye = At the moment loses concentration, lightweight.
Grealish = Massively overhyped & rated, very lightweight.
Gil = We need 10 more players with his skill level or above (Not below)
Jushede = Garbage
Ayew = Has improved his all round game but still nowhere near what we need.
N'Zogbia = I swear the only time I heard his name mentioned was when he came on.

Subs: Sinclair might offer something but he's also very inconsistent, the rest bye bye.

[kippaxvilla2]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

Unsurprisingly you've just named their best two and our worst two.

Not that I agree with the previous poster but our worst two get regular games which I think is a microcosm of where we're at.

[ChicagoLion]

Liverpool's win today shows precisely what confidence can do. They have been steadily improving overall since Klopp arrived and that includes a recent home defeat to Palace. Today is enormous for them.

Difference is they have Milner and Coutinho where we have Westwood and Agbonlahor. It's not all about confidence, we need to spend big in January.

On who exactly?

[1_Pablo_Angel]

I remember when 3 points at Goodison was routine. Oh Lord, for those days to return.

[PeterWithesShin]

When was that? By my reckoning we've won there twice in the last 16 visits, and 8 times since the Morley game in 1981.

[richard moore]

Just watched MOTD. I'd put Richardson on gardening leave for the rest of his contract. Absolutely fecking useless! Jogging back without a care in the world every time an Everton player skinned him.... and there were LOTS of those moments.

I think we're gone now. No team has EVER stayed up in the Premiership after this number of games with our points tally. Watford is definitely the litmus test - Lose that and it's time to put the mortgage on relegation.

Yes, my assumption is we are now gone. Of course, it's still possible to stay up and all that but I find my Saturdays much less stressful if I work from the position that it's the Championship next season. I'm not sure it won't actually come as some sort of cathartic relief.

[Mister E]

The difference this week versus against Citeh is that we largely stopped the ball coming into the danger area at VP whereas Everton peppered us from the start.
I honestly don't believe that Guzan, Richards and Clark are duds: I think that they have been battered and the effect is eventual capitulation. Our fullbacks and midfield have to close down the oppo and limit the opportunities. Yesterday, we were creamed.
Garde has to deal with this, and soon.

[john e]

Remember when we all used to be worried about losing our best players if we got relegated

no one needs to be wetting their pants about that anymore

[LeeB]

Remember when we all used to be worried about losing our best players if we got relegated

no one needs to be wetting their pants about that anymore

Every cloud mate.

[phantom limb]

If we had lost 4-0 to Man City and had just drawn 0-0 with Everton, would things look any different? Before Garde came in I had both games down as certain losses, so a point out of them is still a point.