Everton 4-0 Aston Embarrassing Villa post match thread

[ez]

The team gave us nothing today. Most of the players have nothing to give.

[phantom limb]

Everton are bang in form and have a far superior squad to us, plus we have several players new to the league and several players who aren't good enough but are getting games because there is no adequate replacement. We've also been poorly managed and invested in for years.

We will go down if we fail to beat Newcastle, Sunderland, Bournemouth, Norwich etc. but as long as we can put 3 of them behind us then we can get out of this and then pray that we get sold, because that is the only way this relentless stream of absolute shite will change for the better.

[Richard E]

This result is clearly payback for all the stick I gave John Parrott about this game last night so I take full responsibility and apologise unreservedly to you all.

[ChicagoLion]

I am not sure this was about attitude. I just think that we have too many poor players and if you start with a goalkeeper that will give at least one easy goal a game you have no chance.
Guzan is the biggest problem and god knows there are plenty more.

Why any one thinks we are in a position to sign the right players in January.
I can not see us getting out of this but I have been saying the same for months.

[Billy Walker]

We've just got to pull together and use the transfer window very well.  We're not out of it, as disappointing as today was.   I've got to keep the faith.

Pure speculation on my part but I'm wondering what I would do now if I was in Lerner's position?  Looking at the bigger picture, part of me wonders if he would prefer to take a relatively small hit and sell up soon whilst we are still a Premier League club? From his point of view, offloading the club before the transfer window opens might be  the savvy/prudent option to take (if there is a willing buyer, of course). 

[Villa Lew]

It's ridiculous talking about must win games in November. Having said that the Watford match is a MUST win game!

[citizenDJ]

Yeesh. That was a difficult game to watch. We were properly battered and no mistake. Got a few decent passages of play together in the second half, sort of.

Still, we're one point better off from the last two games than I expected, so there's that I suppose.

[Vegas]

I am not sure this was about attitude. I just think that we have too many poor players and if you start with a goalkeeper that will give at least one easy goal a game you have no chance.
Guzan is the biggest problem and god knows there are plenty more.

Why any one thinks we are in a position to sign the right players in January.
I can not see us getting out of this but I have been saying the same for months.

I sort of agree - our players just aren't good enough collectively. I don't think our attitude was particularly bad today, it just wasn't  the pumped, amazing, in yer face, up for it style that you sometimes see from underdogs in cups. Maybe we need a bit of that, given we're so short everywhere else.

[West Derby Villan]

Someone mentioned in the previous thread that troubled kicked off at the ground, any truth in it?

[Legion]

Villa kicked-off five times.

[West Derby Villan]

Villa kicked-off five times.

love it

[Vegas]

It's ridiculous talking about must win games in November. Having said that the Watford match is a MUST win game!

I'm not sure I understand the widespread use of "must win". I think it means "would like to win" usually. I'm finding it more enjoyable wittering on about use of language than writing anything more about football.

[Le Lapin]

This could be the lowest point in our season and from this game onwards we start pulling together and grinding out a few results before Xmas to tighten up the bottom three. But something with the current mindset at the club tells me we've gone too far to arrest this. Not good at all.

[kippaxvilla2]

Repeating what I said on the Match Thread.

I'm trying not to knee jerk to today but I honestly get the feeling that this is an unstoppable juggernaut towards Championship football.  There has been an almost inevitable culture of failure at the club for far too long.

In addition there are lots and lots of hallmarks that chime with 1987.  The malaise is deep rooted.

[passport1]

Remi " A tough first half after the first goal we played poorly in the second half we played better. I know the job is tough we are going to stick together because we can do nothing else."