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Offline Mostinho II

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2340 on: January 19, 2016, 11:55:02 AM »
She's a poor man's Barabara Berlusconi.

Offline villabear

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2341 on: January 19, 2016, 11:58:05 AM »
Let's all thank her and her new face for the advice. Hope she didn't forget to send Big Ron's son Dalian a Christmas card.

Who's next to give us advice Mr Tumnus?

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2342 on: January 19, 2016, 12:08:43 PM »
No way Ox Chamber is available. He is part of Arsenal first 15 or so players.

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2343 on: January 19, 2016, 12:15:38 PM »
That's what I don't get. Is why on earth we are constantly her topic of conversation? The insecurity caused by being for years merely the shit on the underside of our shoes must be immense.

It's not just her.  It seems everyone who is involved with that club at any level becomes infected with an irrational hatred and obsession with Aston Villa which continues even after they left that hole (see Robbie Savage as another example). I can't think of another club in the country like it. 

Offline OzVilla

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2344 on: January 19, 2016, 12:24:18 PM »
It's simple. We are their everything.

 I've known Noses that see a defeat for us as more enjoyable than a win for them. It's unbelievable how they think.

I've often thought we should sell Season tickets for the away end at VP, I reckon there's a few that would get more out of that than go down to their own God forsaken shit hole.

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2345 on: January 19, 2016, 12:42:12 PM »
I cant stand her but agree with her on this one

Can't see the point in spending big money in this window for the obvious reasons
I think we should concentrate on developing what we have and try and get some playing convidence in the team ready for the inevitable

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2346 on: January 19, 2016, 12:49:22 PM »
I think most of us would push her down the chute before any of the others, the classless whore.

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2347 on: January 19, 2016, 12:56:19 PM »
isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

No. But it's the kind of signing that he made repeatedly that ultimately started this whole shitstorm. Beye, Shorey, L. Young for example.

Our current league position has nothing to do with him directly.
Given that during his tenure he wouldn't countenance any other influence within the club in addition to manager he was de-facto CEO, regardless of any other names floating about, until the day Faulkner called him out. That makes him partly responsible for the shitty, unsustainable state our finances were in.
How we dealt with the mess is another story, but he certainly had a role in kickstarting all of this.
Charles N'zogbia, Shay Given, Darren Bent, Jean II Makoun, Ron Vlaar. As has been said over the last few weeks. We've had money to spend, it's been spent appallingly by poor managers. How much value did we get from the above on the pitch and in terms of transfer return?

It's ludicrous to even mention MON 5 years after he left as someone to blame. That we haven't got over it is more the club's problem than his. We finished 9th, sold two of the three best players in the squad the summer after he left. Since he left, only Benteke has been bought that has anywhere near wiped his face in terms of fee received and return on the pitch. None of the others have, or are likely too.
Isn't the point that by building his own little autocracy, and then leaving in a fit of pique, MON ensured that (or at least significantly contributed to) there wasn't anyone in the club in a position to monitor or guide transfer policy. Yes, of course Randy shouldn't have let things get into that position and bears his share of the blame, but his failure was placing too much faith in MON.
That's the structure he was allowed to build by someone who had never run a football club. You may be right. My real problem is the theory that MON left us with no money and a shit squad. That's just utter rubbish IMO. The autocracy on transfers like you suggest should have been dealt with in the summer we finished 9th and appointed Alex McLeish

You seem to be making it look as if there was a limitless pot of money that we were able to dip in whenever a manager saw fit.
It was Lerner's money, not the club 's, not mine,not yours .He had his finger's well and truly burnt by a man in whom he trusted to be doing the right things....put yourself in Lerner's position what would you have done?....left the tap on?

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Offline aev

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2349 on: January 19, 2016, 01:10:16 PM »
isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

No. But it's the kind of signing that he made repeatedly that ultimately started this whole shitstorm. Beye, Shorey, L. Young for example.

Our current league position has nothing to do with him directly.
Given that during his tenure he wouldn't countenance any other influence within the club in addition to manager he was de-facto CEO, regardless of any other names floating about, until the day Faulkner called him out. That makes him partly responsible for the shitty, unsustainable state our finances were in.
How we dealt with the mess is another story, but he certainly had a role in kickstarting all of this.
Charles N'zogbia, Shay Given, Darren Bent, Jean II Makoun, Ron Vlaar. As has been said over the last few weeks. We've had money to spend, it's been spent appallingly by poor managers. How much value did we get from the above on the pitch and in terms of transfer return?

It's ludicrous to even mention MON 5 years after he left as someone to blame. That we haven't got over it is more the club's problem than his. We finished 9th, sold two of the three best players in the squad the summer after he left. Since he left, only Benteke has been bought that has anywhere near wiped his face in terms of fee received and return on the pitch. None of the others have, or are likely too.
Isn't the point that by building his own little autocracy, and then leaving in a fit of pique, MON ensured that (or at least significantly contributed to) there wasn't anyone in the club in a position to monitor or guide transfer policy. Yes, of course Randy shouldn't have let things get into that position and bears his share of the blame, but his failure was placing too much faith in MON.
That's the structure he was allowed to build by someone who had never run a football club. You may be right. My real problem is the theory that MON left us with no money and a shit squad. That's just utter rubbish IMO. The autocracy on transfers like you suggest should have been dealt with in the summer we finished 9th and appointed Alex McLeish

You seem to be making it look as if there was a limitless pot of money that we were able to dip in whenever a manager saw fit.
It was Lerner's money, not the club 's, not mine,not yours .He had his finger's well and truly burnt by a man in whom he trusted to be doing the right things....put yourself in Lerner's position what would you have done?....left the tap on?

His reluctance however to invest properly over the last few seasons is going to cost him an awful lot more.

Offline cdward

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2350 on: January 19, 2016, 01:13:00 PM »
Part of our problem is shifting out the deadwood to make room (financially) for new signings, as well as convincing players to join us.
Only players that have been frozen out of PL (or foreign equivalent) squads,  or who are currently in the championship or lower would seriously consider joining us.
Plus nobody seems interested in taking Gabby, N'Zog, etc' off our hands, so we are stuck.

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2351 on: January 19, 2016, 01:21:51 PM »
Well, luckily, Karen Brady has some advice for us... phew, thanks Karen.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/18/karren-brady-gives-transfer-window-advice-to-aston-villa-and-ran/

Has she advised us to pay £15m for an injury prone Andy Carroll?

Offline aj2k77

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2352 on: January 19, 2016, 01:43:42 PM »
I think most of us would push her down the chute before any of the others, the classless whore.

She already looks like she's been down the chute and hit the ground face first. She can fuck off back to Dr Moreau's Island the nob.

Online CT Villan

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2353 on: January 19, 2016, 02:01:13 PM »
Well, luckily, Karen Brady has some advice for us... phew, thanks Karen.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/18/karren-brady-gives-transfer-window-advice-to-aston-villa-and-ran/

To be fair, there's probably nobody else with more experience of preparing for relegation to the Championship, so she may know a thing or two...and I did giggle childishly when I realised that her title is the Chairman of Vice :)...oh the simple pleasures of a fan in murderous mode.

Offline AVH87

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Re: January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #2354 on: January 19, 2016, 02:18:28 PM »
Has she overseen relegations at both SHA and WHam, or did she arrive when WHam were already back up?

 


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