Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread

[maidstonevillain]

Bunn*
Hutton Okore Clark* Amavi
Sanchez
Gana Veretout
Gil Ayew Sinclair

Give that team a few games please. * = replace in transfer window

Richards instead of Clark, and possibly some permutation of 3 from Gil, Ayew, Sinclair, and Kozak.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

If Remi is as good as most of us on here at spotting our faults it won't take him long to improve us.
Not taking the piss - I am serious.
We have the club in our hearts and can see who the good and bad players are week in, week out.
Any "insider" eg: KMac or "desperate to make news" eg Sherwood, will have "baggage" that means they pick players for the weirdest of personal reasons.


I'm sure we'd all put Gil on the team sheet every week, but TS didn't and KMac hasn't. They both persisted in picking Gabby, Westwood and Lescott. Why?

I'm hoping Garde will see the wood for the trees and simply pick the "best" potential team...and for me that would include Richards, Amavi, Sanchez, Gana, Veretout, Ayew, Gil; possibly Hutton, Okore, Clark, Bacuna, Kozak, Grealish, Bunn, Guzan?, Gestede?, Sinclair. NEVER: Lescott, Richardson, Westwood, Gabby.

Just pick the best team available based on philosophy of play, not "experience" etc....we did that tonight and got well and truly fu*ked after 2 minutes! 

[SamTheMouse]

There is no way on the planet that the new additions are worse than the shower of shit that was out there tonight. They may make mistakes, but Amavi is twice the player Richardson is, Veretout can do everything Westwood can and a fair bit more and Gueye is even better, and Ayew scored - again.

Plus, Gil is always a livewire and wants the ball when he comes on. He should be starting every game at the minute, because he's one of the few players who still has his head up.

We have the personnel to play some decent stuff, provided they are confident. But we still need a striker in the January window. Preferably one who can actually control a football and make intelligent runs. Otherwise we're down.

[rougegorge]

The phrases people have used on here are apt - 'best of a bad bunch' ,  'least worst' etc. Even if we play all of our better players we will still be short of the required quality.

[Villa in Denmark]

We were shocking tonight but I don't understand the Sinclair bashing, he was one of the least worst. There was a moment in the second half where he was looking for help from Richardson or an overlap and he just stopped and trotted back. The team that started tonight was the worst Villa side I can remember seeing since 1987.

The most frustrating thing, and the reason for so much anger towards McDonald is that it didn't need to be.

Even the commentators over here were taking the piss out of Gabby, so many years at the club, the experienced player who the youngsters should be able to look to, but is the bloke that offers nothing.

Westwood as part of a midfield 2?

Richardson instead of Amavi?

The list is almost endless.  Just about the only bloke that had a starting place on merit and came off having earned his money as well was Hutton.

[curiousorange]

I don't know if we have a 'bad bunch'. Half our squad never get a chance to play. Honestly, what was the point in signing Tiago Ilori? Richardson got pelters tonight, yet he's apparently first choice left back.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't know if we have a 'bad bunch'. Half our squad never get a chance to play. Honestly, what was the point in signing Tiago Ilori?

Fuck the bed, I'd totally forgotten about him.

[Louzie0]

I wonder if the ridiculously late suspension of Micah Richards affected them all, including KMac?

[ciggiesnbeer]

I don't know if we have a 'bad bunch'. Half our squad never get a chance to play. Honestly, what was the point in signing Tiago Ilori?

Fuck the bed, I'd totally forgotten about him.

Me too. Bloody hell.

[john2710]

At least Mike Dean seemed to enjoy it!

https://vine.co/v/e3xZuMJwwTl

[KevinGage]

Wonder if Garde's contract contains a cooling off period.

[maidstonevillain]

I feel kmac is getting too much criticism here he is stepping into the breach and doing his best.

About time ppl looked at the players! Yes ayew and Gil could of started but he picked what he thought was right

Let him go back to what he does best and lay off him he isn't the reason we're in this mess

Could you remind me of what he does best.  Because I am seriously concerned about him being responsible for the youngsters

[passport1]

Officially the worst start to a season in the club's history. Another record smashed by Villa over the last 5 years. Absolutely sick to death of it all.

To a man they all should be ashamed of themselves to let it slip this far. After the Lambert Christmas and New Year debacle they should have nipped this in the bud, 3 years later it's worse than ever.

They've been lucky enough to profit from our struggle year in year out, staying up by the skin of our teeth. There's no shame because there has been no consequence. When the goal is staying up the standard is already so low that they are comfortable with where they are.

They've lowered the standing of this club so far. We've become a joke. Listening to Neville laugh at us was hard to take. We are so, so bad. I don't think Garde will save us, and even if he does a pretty good job it wont be enough as we've lost too much ground already. How has Randy not got any stick during the match?

This is of course the crux of the matter and a complete mystery to outside observers

[Toronto Villa]

I feel kmac is getting too much criticism here he is stepping into the breach and doing his best.

About time ppl looked at the players! Yes ayew and Gil could of started but he picked what he thought was right

Let him go back to what he does best and lay off him he isn't the reason we're in this mess

No he's not. He's getting what he deserves. He took over for two games with absolutely nothing to lose. He knew the kind of sides Sherwood had been putting out that has resulted in us losing 6 straight. And as a very experienced coach, instead of taking a very different approach, reintegrating players or simply giving them some freedom it could be argued he made the side even more conservative, negative and introverted. I thought he'd really mix it up for Southampton and instead of put out what must be worst side of the season, and tonight it was almost as bad, maybe more so given the magnitude of the game and occasion for the club.

Thanks for all your work over the years Kevin but you need to go too.

[ozzjim]

Even more so when you read that Gana and Traore were simply left out of the squad. Gana who has been head and shoulders our best midfielder this season. Idiotic, and if I did not know better as short sighted as much of the little England press gang have been.