Tottenham vs Aston Villa Post-match thread

[PaulWinch again]

I genuinely think KMac should be investigated for match fixing. There is no excuse for that starting 11 and even dimwit pundits can see it.

[SoccerHQ]

So depressing being bottom and having people like Richardson, Gabby, Sinclair, Lescott stinking out the side. Clark had a shocker aswell.

Bonkers that Ayew can't get in ahead of any of our "strikers"

At least with Remi in now the likes of Amavi and Gana who have been inexplicably sidelined will get chances again, hopefully Traore and Veretout aswell.

We can only hope but no chance of this squad getting 10 wins.

[curiousorange]

To my mind, the first thing Garde has to do is pick the spine of his team, the four players who he's going to trust with his tactics come what may. If he goes with Guzan, so be it, but he needs to make sure they know he's counting on them to be the fulcrum in goal, defence, midfield or attack.

The second thing he's got to do, of course, is put Lescott on gardening leave.

[Loxton01]

I feel kmac is getting too much criticism here he is stepping into the breach and doing his best.

About time ppl looked at the players! Yes ayew and Gil could of started but he picked what he thought was right

Let him go back to what he does best and lay off him he isn't the reason we're in this mess

[pauliewalnuts]

I feel kmac is getting too much criticism here he is stepping into the breach and doing his best.

About time ppl looked at the players! Yes ayew and Gil could of started but he picked what he thought was right

Let him go back to what he does best and lay off him he isn't the reason we're in this mess

Nobody has said he's the reason we are in the mess.

People are pointing out that it is nigh-on impossible for anyone to really think that that starting line up was our best.

[brontebilly]

KMac is a genuine guy who has been at the club for years, maybe things are a lot more rotten behind the scenes that we realise. It doesn't excuse his selections over the past two games mind.

As much as there was a daft team selection, you would think our players would be bursting a gut considering our league position and with our new manager in the stand. For most of that game our players with few exceptions were an absolute disgrace to the shirt.
Guzan 4 - hard to watch him, confidence is shot. Bunn needs to be given a go
Hutton 7 - limited player but gave his all, the bare minimum expected from any player but sadly he is one of the few who genuinely seems like he cares
Clark 3 - in one way felt sorry for him as he should never have been jselected on the right side but still I expect a player in the top division to make a passable attempt at looking competent
Lescott 5 - pub player but far from our worst tonight
Richardson 4 - see above but worse, so unfit it's untrue
Bacuna 5 - improved second half but another one who could do with growing a pair
Westwood 4 - irrelevant
Sinclair 4 - no pace, no nothing really, a poor man's Charles Nzogbia who is a multi millionaire despite delivering little or nothing as a senior professional
Gabby 0 - a charlatan, end of. Treats the club with a level of contempt not seen since SVC. F*ck off and never come back
Grealish 3 - I could be kind and say young players are notoriously inconsistent but he didn't try a leg tonight. Not mature enough to be starting and if he isn't willing to sweat a bit and show a bit of moral courage to get on the ball then he will head the same way as Luke Moore and the Fonz. Tonight should be a serious wake up call for him.

Ayew 7 - played out of position but gave it his all from the start. Took a lot of wrong options but kept going and got his rewards. An example of what is expected of a player at our club, shocking early appearances for us now long forgotten, great sign of a top character
Gil 7 - only player on our team whose technical ability stood out. Wanted to be involved, took players on. Start him for next three games minimum
Gestede 5 - reminded me of that gif of a horse falling over a gym ball. Should have scored mind but looks increasingly limited.

[PaulWinch again]

I feel kmac is getting too much criticism here he is stepping into the breach and doing his best.

About time ppl looked at the players! Yes ayew and Gil could of started but he picked what he thought was right

Let him go back to what he does best and lay off him he isn't the reason we're in this mess

Well he did as bad a job as possible and everyone can see that. The team he picked tonight can only have been deliberately picked to lose.

[mattjpa]

                 Bunn
Hutton Okore Clark Amavi
        Sanchez Gueye
  Sinclair     Gil       Traore
                 Ayew

[SoccerHQ]

To my mind, the first thing Garde has to do is pick the spine of his team, the four players who he's going to trust with his tactics come what may. If he goes with Guzan, so be it, but he needs to make sure they know he's counting on them to be the fulcrum in goal, defence, midfield or attack.

The second thing he's got to do, of course, is put Lescott on gardening leave.

Best of a bad bunch but I'd go for Guzan, Richards, Sanchez, Gana, Gil, Ayew as the spine. Likes of Grealish and Traore will have parts to plays aswell as the season goes on.

[kippaxvilla2]

                 Bunn
Hutton Okore Clark Amavi
        Sanchez Gueye
  Sinclair     Gil       Traore
                 Ayew

You are kidding?  No Gabby?

[villadelph]

I feel kmac is getting too much criticism here he is stepping into the breach and doing his best.

About time ppl looked at the players! Yes ayew and Gil could of started but he picked what he thought was right

Let him go back to what he does best and lay off him he isn't the reason we're in this mess

Clark, Richardson, Bacuna and Gabby (C) in the same squad..?!

He should've been excused of his duties right there. Out right pathetic for someone villa "through and through"

The guy had nothing to lose and put that heap of crap out there. Had it not been for the subs we could've gotten killed.

[Chris Jameson]

We were shocking tonight but I don't understand the Sinclair bashing, he was one of the least worst. There was a moment in the second half where he was looking for help from Richardson or an overlap and he just stopped and trotted back. The team that started tonight was the worst Villa side I can remember seeing since 1987.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Maybe I’m insane but I’m not too despondent after that.  After all, what did it tell us that we didn’t already know?  The starting eleven, with a couple of exceptions, was Lambert’s team, the same eye-wateringly bad team that wasn’t remotely good enough for the last two years, the self-same pillock collective that needed a whacking great injection of better players just to get to mid-table.  Well, we’ve got them, plenty of them.  Why the buggering hell they were all on the bench tonight is beyond me, but when a few of them found their way onto the pitch and settled into the game we started to look a bit like a football team.  Who’d have thought it?  What a shame the game had gone by then. 

That’s the really frustrating thing, it was a waste of a game, a surrender from the moment that starting line-up was decided; judging by the second half performance I’d say we could have got at least a point tonight with a less idiotic team selection.  However, we have a new manager who has just seen that with his own eyes.  He’ll have spotted the rampant ineptitude in that first half, and looked to the bench to see Gil, Ayew, Amavi and Veretout, with Gueye, Okore and Richards to return.  It’s not as if he’s saddled with Ricky Otto, Kevin Francis and six Vince Oversons.  There are better options there, and signs late in the game that there is some talent in this squad.  What there isn’t is organisation, intelligence and confidence.  Good luck, Mr Garde.         

[mattjpa]

Is the team he should have selected. If gueye isn't fit then veretout. If traore isn't fit then grealish

[Walmley_Villa]

Christ Football gold on Sky, the 4-4 Monday night Spurs game. I was there that night just to rub it in.