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Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4755 on: February 15, 2016, 06:43:59 AM »
Have not been 100% behind him, but when faced with other options I thought, stay with what we have.

When he came in , nearly all on here thought the players available would offer more than what they had shown under rent a quote, that to a very marginal level has been seen, what the club did to him in January was nothing short of disgraceful, but we are now into February and he no one else decided to stay.

We are without a striker, but I have not seen any alteration to our style of play, to get midfielders into the box to support what ever useless lump we have up there, draws will not get us out of this mess, so he has to twist to a certain extent and put the emphasis on bodies in the box, thee only time this happens now is when we have a dead ball, he may not have the options to insert other players whether it is the youth or who ever, but he does have the option to look at changing the way we approach a game.

I feel a lot of us welcomed him as it was a change from the British only mind set we have become use to and any fool can see he has taken on a poison chalice, but I do think his reasons and style, manner of answering questions after matches may have not been so happily received, if it was given out in a cockney twang, or a Scottish brogue.

No doubt a good man, just in the wrong place at the wrong time working for the wrong bosses.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4756 on: February 15, 2016, 07:19:54 AM »
The cat in the Pearson household came out from under the sideboard at four o'clock yesterday afternoon.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4757 on: February 15, 2016, 07:24:10 AM »
Yeah Brian but that was only because his son had finished doing what he was doing to it and I am told it is a Siamese cat.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4758 on: February 15, 2016, 07:34:36 AM »
Agree Kuwait, straws in the wind and all that but I think the Pearson offer to pay for his own big net and tranquilizer gun will appeal to Mr Watch The Pennies Hollis.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4759 on: February 15, 2016, 07:47:27 AM »
Surely Pearson isn't the only candidate. It could be set up for Moyes in the summer which I think would be best for all as Garde really looks broken. Also I'm concerned we are appointing too many chiefs behind the scenes. It's starting to look like last summer's window in that we needed somebody so went out and got as many as possible hoping that it would work out.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4760 on: February 15, 2016, 07:53:13 AM »
The board will go for anybody who will not make a fuss about their non-spending, if we recover somewhere in the region of 15 maybe 20 mill on what we get rid off, if they will take 10 and not say anything that will get them over the interview line and appointed. This does not end until Lerner has gone.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4761 on: February 15, 2016, 07:58:35 AM »
Well £50m was spent in the summer so there's nothing suggest that money won't be available again. Especially as we really need to bounce back first time. That the 50m was wasted is another story.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4762 on: February 15, 2016, 08:03:07 AM »
I would appoint Pearson tomorrow as a last throw of the dice to stay up and also the far more likely scenario of starting planning for promotion next season. I just have a feeling that Moyes' best days as a manager are behind him.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4763 on: February 15, 2016, 08:05:51 AM »
Well £50m was spent in the summer so there's nothing suggest that money won't be available again. Especially as we really need to bounce back first time. That the 50m was wasted is another story.
But that money was mostly from the Benteke and Delph sales. I now think we will never rise again with Lerner at the helm and it will most likely get a lot worse.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4764 on: February 15, 2016, 08:08:05 AM »


Any of the u21 midfielders and any of the u21 Strikers. Whoever they are will be more commited than those 2 jokes.

So you haven't actually got an alternative other than "Somebody"?

Are you being deliberately dim to start an arguement? Take a look at our squad list, pick anyone, any kid from the youth team will show more heart and desire than than the feckless Bacuna. He is a complete waste of space, it's having the likes of him swanning around that's got us in the position we are in.

Lyden or Calder for a start. Bacuna never has and never will be a decent midfielder.

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« Reply #4765 on: February 15, 2016, 08:09:30 AM »
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying I'd necessarily go for Moyes just that for those who are anti-Pearson there are alternatives. To be fair I'd be tempted to go for Howe. May be a very long shot but he may think he's done as much as he can with a club the size of Bournemouth. What hoes against us is that he'll be dropping a division. What's going for us is that we're a big club and if her gets it right he's looking at doing a lot more than he could at Bournemouth.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4766 on: February 15, 2016, 08:11:14 AM »
Garde isn't responsible for today's result.

It's a damning indictment of every employee of the club associated with the playing side, that we currently have the worst squad in living memory and yet there isn't a single reserve or academy players that's deemed worth trying - even from the bench.

However, Garde will be responsible for future results if he sticks with the same players and the same formula.  I don't care if we get more heavily defeated if he at least tries to do something different.   If he sticks with same losing formula then he's as culpable as the rest.



Sorry, but yes he is, to a degree. He didn't sign them granted, but he needs to get them to scrap and battle, close down and be more organized than they we today.

They look as motivated and organised as a Sherwood team. The only thing he's done is got them a bit fitter as you'd expect as the season progresses a bit. If he doesn't have the dressing room then either he has to go or the players and how likely is it we will replace most of the squad in the summer? Another dead man walking.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4767 on: February 15, 2016, 08:18:20 AM »


Any of the u21 midfielders and any of the u21 Strikers. Whoever they are will be more commited than those 2 jokes.

So you haven't actually got an alternative other than "Somebody"?

Are you being deliberately dim to start an arguement? Take a look at our squad list, pick anyone, any kid from the youth team will show more heart and desire than than the feckless Bacuna. He is a complete waste of space, it's having the likes of him swanning around that's got us in the position we are in.

Lyden or Calder for a start. Bacuna never has and never will be a decent midfielder.

I'm not being deliberately dim; you're saying anyone and have finally given a couple of names. Incidentally, I don't start arguments. I just ban people.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4768 on: February 15, 2016, 08:22:04 AM »
Come on we're all hurting right now. No need for insults or heavy handedness.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4769 on: February 15, 2016, 08:22:32 AM »
Yes, it is more of the same medicine administered by Lambert. There clearly was an axis of austerity forged between Lerner and Lambert.  Lerner was told what he wanted to hear, namely that a lowering of expectations would enable a lowering of expenditure.

With Lerner still in place that philosophy is still in place.  It was firmly in place yesterday when Garde had to field a pathetically weak, unstrengthened team.  The only difference now is that in Lambert's time he was the willing instrument of Lerner's money clawback, now we have a potentially better manager but Hollis has been put in place to cut costs.  Fox is a busted flush. Remi Garde is the acceptable face of the club but behind the scenes the landscape remains the same.  Lerner and his advisors screwed up on the selling of the club so it becomes sweat the asset time.

Like everything that has happened in Lerner's tenure the timing is wrong.  Because Lambert was a good and loyal expectations reducer he was rewarded with a new contract when he should have been sacked and replaced by a Remi Garde or similar forward thinker. That could have got us out of the tailspin towards relegation and the massive financial damage that will entail.  Everything we are going through flows from Randy Lerner's bad judgement of people and of business.

 


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