Southampton vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[Stirchley Villain]

I'm just catching up with the game on the Internet at the moment as I'm not in the country. The BBC reckon we 14 shots and 7 on target. That is surely an improvement on every game we've played this season even the ones we've won isn't it? Grounds for optimism?

[eamonn]

Yet another defeat by the odd goal. We're even shit at being shit.

[David_Nab]

As per his OS interview he played Amvi and Bacuna  wide as they our best crossers of the ball

What Kmac figured out in one game is that Gestede is only worth playing if you whip balls into him from wide.He has little pace , poor hold up play and general looks akward on the ball so I will give him credit for that .Sherwood seemed to think Gestede was Benteke and tried to have the team play as we did last season ,,

We were direct at times but we had a plan , we hit it long to Gestede for flick on's . over the top for Gabby to run onto or we tried to get it wide.

[Des Little]

Just in. Getting into and out if Southampton isn't getting any easier...

Anyway I do admire some of the constructive thoughts on here, and I'm sure that there is merit in them. Sadly I'm not as considered so I'll just say that it was a bag of horse shit. Players way out of form playing without confidence or belief is bad enough but the perceived lack of effort or passion is unforgivable.

Any manager even half contemplating taking this load of shit on will think twice if he watched that. I honestly think we could do a Derby this season. Absolute garbage.

[E I Adio]

As per his OS interview he played Amvi and Bacuna  wide as they our best crossers of the ball

What Kmac figured out in one game is that Gestede is only worth playing if you whip balls into him from wide.He has little pace , poor hold up play and general looks akward on the ball so I will give him credit for that .Sherwood seemed to think Gestede was Benteke and tried to have the team play as we did last season ,,

We were direct at times but we had a plan , we hit it long to Gestede for flick on's . over the top for Gabby to run onto or we tried to get it wide.

I agree. I thought there was also a good deal of challenging for the ball by all the team members when we had lost possession in all areas of the pitch, not something that he been noticeable for quite some time.

Now he just has to get the forwards without the ball to make themselves available by moving into spaces when we are attacking.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Just back.
I thought K Mac had a chance tonight to show that these players could do something with a bit of organisation.
Stunned by the team selection. Gabby? Bacuna?
Where were Gana, Veretout, Gil, Traore?

The one player that needed subbing was Gabby - did NOTHING, but played the whole game. Amavi our best attack minded player - subbed!
Not a bad 1st half, fell apart in the 2nd.
Crespo did ok but clearly can't win a challenge in the air.
Westwood did his usual mix of looking really good but achieving little.
Sanchez - who I really like - totally fu*ked with 20 minutes to go.
Gabby - finished. Embarrassing. The End. Please.
Gestede - couldn't control his own dick while pissing out of it...wtf!

I honestly think that if we deploy our midfielders: Sanchez, Gana, Gil and Grealish "properly" we can hurt other teams.

Traore for impact.

I'd try Ayew and Kozak up top.
Try keeping the ball, not giving it away at every set-piece, including throw-ins, and stop being so fu*king nice....get in the face of the opposition and play as if you want to win the game!!!


Yours sincerely,
Pissed Off,
Pershore.

ps the 3000+ fans were brilliant tonight but I can't bring myself to sing about my own team being shit, even if we are.

UTV!

[Skerra]

I think these "jokers" as managers are having a laugh at our expense. I was in complete disbelief when I saw the team he had picked. I doubt that even if you pulled 11 names out of a hat it would be really difficult to come up with as shit a line up as we put out tonight.

K-Mac, please read the team that us supporters generally agree on, with the very odd exception. Here is a big clue for the team you should start with at Spuds next monday:

Guzan, Richards(as right back), Clark, Okore, Amavi, Traore, Gil, Sanchez, Veretout, Kozak and Ayew.  Of course you also have Grealish. I think that Richards and Amavi have the pace and the crosses to cause trouble and,your holding midfield players would be Sanchez and Veretout with Traore also causing some damage down the right flank and Gil playing a number 10 role. Free advise there Kev and, can't see why you or TS can't see the blindingly obvious. PS: Mr Lerner and Mr Fox, for a small remuneration, I can give you further advise on picking teams that will not only be entertaining but might just win us a fucking match!!

Please, just for once, try a decent line up and forget Agbonlahor, Gestede, Hutton, Westwood et al. These players form the basis of our disaster this season.

[frank]

The first half wasn't bad at all. Although we were set up defensively we took the game to Southampton and looked more threatening than in recent games - though we had no one who could produce the killer pass or an individual bit of brilliance. The second half was poor. We gave Southamption possession far too easily and our passing was dreadful, even players like Sanchez and Hutton who otherwise had a good game. I haven't seen the highlights, but I thought Amavi was at fault for the first goal and that Guzan should probably have saved it anyway.

Apart from one excellent shot Gabby did nothing. And he shouldn't wear yellow shorts again: on a tubby lad they're not at all flattering.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I think these "jokers" as managers are having a laugh at our expense. I was in complete disbelief when I saw the team he had picked. I doubt that even if you pulled 11 names out of a hat it would be really difficult to come up with as shit a line up as we put out tonight.

K-Mac, please read the team that us supporters generally agree on, with the very odd exception. Here is a big clue for the team you should start with at Spuds next monday:

Guzan, Richards(as right back), Clark, Okore, Amavi, Traore, Gil, Sanchez, Veretout, Kozak and Ayew.  Of course you also have Grealish. I think that Richards and Amavi have the pace and the crosses to cause trouble and,your holding midfield players would be Sanchez and Veretout with Traore also causing some damage down the right flank and Gil playing a number 10 role. Free advise there Kev and, can't see why you or TS can't see the blindingly obvious. PS: Mr Lerner and Mr Fox, for a small remuneration, I can give you further advise on picking teams that will not only be entertaining but might just win us a fucking match!!

Please, just for once, try a decent line up and forget Agbonlahor, Gestede, Hutton, Westwood et al. These players form the basis of our disaster this season.

Pretty much agree with all of that Skerra.
Don't forget Gana - our best MF this season.


And...minor point...it's "advice" you give, not "advise", which is something you do, and you clearly do very well imho.
Being an English teacher for 40 years fu*ks with my brain!

Come on you Villa boys!

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

The first half wasn't bad at all. Although we were set up defensively we took the game to Southampton and looked more threatening than in recent games - though we had no one who could produce the killer pass or an individual bit of brilliance. The second half was poor. We gave Southamption possession far too easily and our passing was dreadful, even players like Sanchez and Hutton who otherwise had a good game. I haven't seen the highlights, but I thought Amavi was at fault for the first goal and that Guzan should probably have saved it anyway.

Apart from one excellent shot Gabby did nothing. And he shouldn't wear yellow shorts again: on a tubby lad they're not at all flattering.

Great to hear from you frank!
Agree mate.
We need to play Gil - because he can produce that killer pass, and it drives me absolutely nuts that we cannot keep possession of the ball in the simplest of situations...eg almost all set-pieces end up being a gift for the opposition rather than a threat from us!!! Add all those little moments up - it amounts to an enormous amount of possession/non-possession!

Frank, you and I would look lovely in yellow shorts!

[ciggiesnbeer]

I'm just catching up with the game on the Internet at the moment as I'm not in the country. The BBC reckon we 14 shots and 7 on target. That is surely an improvement on every game we've played this season even the ones we've won isn't it? Grounds for optimism?

I thought it was, in my eyes we played well and were unlucky to lose.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

We were pretty good in the first half, completely shit in the second.
We lost to the better team over 90 minutes.

[Skerra]

Quite right Frank - it was a typo error re:advice/advise. As you can tell , I'm fuming so, in a rush to put finger to keypad and, also agree with you about Gana (Don't know how I forgot him) so, OK, change Sanchez for Gana. We would then also have a reasonable bench.
I've said before that, although we are a little short of a great striker, the squad as a whole are well good enough to climb the league but, whoever is manager please don't keep persisting with the players who have by and large got into this sad situation.

[adrenachrome]

I feared the worst when I saw our kit. All yellow.

Put me in mind of that ghastly dirge by Indy Rock Beat Combo Coldplay and that caterwauling long streak of piss with the horses teeth who was slipping a length to Gwyn Poltroon the emaciated actress. The video for the song had the eejit stumbling goggle eyed along a rain swept beach as though he had just been on the pipe. 

At least Gabby has now built sufficient physical mass to win most of the sumo wrestling contests which are an integral  part of most crosses into the box these days and he did put himself about early doors. If he continues to expand at the current rate of growth however, he will achieve Grant Holt "proper man" status sooner rather than later and be the object of pie-based ribaldry. 

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I'd play Sanchez.
I think he's fu*ked in the last 20 minutes because he's doing too much shite running around that others aren't doing - eg Westwood
Gana and Sanchez would be my DMFs of choice...I think Veretout looks very promising going forward...when he plays!

Gil to create. Hopefully/ideally with Grealish.