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Author Topic: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?  (Read 295103 times)

Offline McGraths Dry Cleaning

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2295 on: November 01, 2015, 07:21:31 PM »
Been trading next Villa manager market on Betfair for a couple of days - odds just shortened on Garde even more - I last lumped on at 1.4 a couple of hours ago and its down to 1.1ish which is the biggest shift i've seen last couple of hours

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2296 on: November 01, 2015, 07:24:38 PM »
Been trading next Villa manager market on Betfair for a couple of days - odds just shortened on Garde even more - I last lumped on at 1.4 a couple of hours ago and its down to 1.1ish which is the biggest shift i've seen last couple of hours

I had 20 quid at 20/1 (on Garde) last Sunday afternoon. Literally ten mins later, I thought I'd have another tenner or so, so went back and in that time he had come in to 4/6.

It was all over twitter when I looked, but I wonder where these nuggets of information appear from that shift prices like that.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2297 on: November 01, 2015, 07:27:18 PM »
Canal Plus reporting he will join with Reginald Ray as assistant - odds are less than 1/10 now

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2298 on: November 01, 2015, 07:28:53 PM »
Reginald Ray?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2299 on: November 01, 2015, 07:33:00 PM »
Been trading next Villa manager market on Betfair for a couple of days - odds just shortened on Garde even more - I last lumped on at 1.4 a couple of hours ago and its down to 1.1ish which is the biggest shift i've seen last couple of hours

I had 20 quid at 20/1 (on Garde) last Sunday afternoon. Literally ten mins later, I thought I'd have another tenner or so, so went back and in that time he had come in to 4/6.

It was all over twitter when I looked, but I wonder where these nuggets of information appear from that shift prices like that.
This is a tiny market on Betfair so a lot of it will move quickly due to small betting amounts. Even some of the small bets I've been placing have caused the odds to move. Just now the odds on Garde are down to the 1.02-1.05 range. Cant see a specific reason for it and looked on the Betfair chat forum but no intel there. Can't imagine anything would be announced tonite but someone in the genuine know might be hoovering up any value that the market is offering. Just checked on odds checker (shows odds for a number of bookies so worth using if you want to quickly find the best odds) and the market looks like its all but closed.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2300 on: November 01, 2015, 07:34:31 PM »
Been trading next Villa manager market on Betfair for a couple of days - odds just shortened on Garde even more - I last lumped on at 1.4 a couple of hours ago and its down to 1.1ish which is the biggest shift i've seen last couple of hours

I had 20 quid at 20/1 (on Garde) last Sunday afternoon. Literally ten mins later, I thought I'd have another tenner or so, so went back and in that time he had come in to 4/6.

It was all over twitter when I looked, but I wonder where these nuggets of information appear from that shift prices like that.
This is a tiny market on Betfair so a lot of it will move quickly due to small betting amounts. Even some of the small bets I've been placing have caused the odds to move. Just now the odds on Garde are down to the 1.02-1.05 range. Cant see a specific reason for it and looked on the Betfair chat forum but no intel there. Can't imagine anything would be announced tonite but someone in the genuine know might be hoovering up any value that the market is offering. Just checked on odds checker (shows odds for a number of bookies so worth using if you want to quickly find the best odds) and the market looks like its all but closed.

Don't next manager markets generally get closed overnight?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2301 on: November 01, 2015, 07:34:33 PM »
Manager markets usually close overnight.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2302 on: November 01, 2015, 07:36:03 PM »
Reginald Ray?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2303 on: November 01, 2015, 07:36:58 PM »
Hindsight or not, any business is going to be in trouble where there's not a solid and experienced management team and a clear plan and blueprint for the next 10 years. We appointed a call office manager as CEO who knew little about football and blindly trusted O'Neill to get it right.

That's only partially true, we appointed a couple of guys with a decent pedigree but both left pretty swiftly.  Apologies I cannot remember their names.  It would have been interesting if the club had undertaken proper exit interviews as the rumours were that MON basically wanted to run everything and made their jobs untenable. If this was known to randy - twice - then it is pretty damning that they did nothing about it or chose to solely trust MON.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2304 on: November 01, 2015, 07:38:10 PM »
Hindsight or not, any business is going to be in trouble where there's not a solid and experienced management team and a clear plan and blueprint for the next 10 years. We appointed a call office manager as CEO who knew little about football and blindly trusted O'Neill to get it right.

That's only partially true, we appointed a couple of guys with a decent pedigree but both left pretty swiftly.  Apologies I cannot remember their names.  It would have been interesting if the club had undertaken proper exit interviews as the rumours were that MON basically wanted to run everything and made their jobs untenable. If this was known to randy - twice - then it is pretty damning that they did nothing about it or chose to solely trust MON.

Richard FitzGerald - who didn't have a background in football, and left after losing a power battle with MON and Michael Cunnah, who was here such a short period of time, I doubt they even had his business cards printed

The FitzGerald thing (the rucks with O'Neill) I got from a contact high up at 32 Red (negotiated the sponsorship deal with Doug) who was also a close friend of his. MON was having none of it.


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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2306 on: November 01, 2015, 07:41:10 PM »
Cunnah was an odd one. He arrived with a (reported) brief to rebuild the North Stand, him coming led to FitzGerald going, then he left not long after.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2307 on: November 01, 2015, 07:41:47 PM »
Hindsight or not, any business is going to be in trouble where there's not a solid and experienced management team and a clear plan and blueprint for the next 10 years. We appointed a call office manager as CEO who knew little about football and blindly trusted O'Neill to get it right.

That's only partially true, we appointed a couple of guys with a decent pedigree but both left pretty swiftly.  Apologies I cannot remember their names.  It would have been interesting if the club had undertaken proper exit interviews as the rumours were that MON basically wanted to run everything and made their jobs untenable. If this was known to randy - twice - then it is pretty damning that they did nothing about it or chose to solely trust MON.
Well remembered. One of them was called Fitzgerald I think?


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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2308 on: November 01, 2015, 07:47:49 PM »
Sunsport just tweeted Garde being announced tomorrow morning.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #2309 on: November 01, 2015, 07:48:11 PM »
Problem was that Lerner had all and sundry telling him how wonderful O'Neill was, so I guess he was happy to trust him to run the place.

 


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