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Author Topic: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?  (Read 294078 times)

Online Billy Walker

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #885 on: October 26, 2015, 05:27:34 PM »
It's heartening to know someone else cares even if he is treating us like his nursery club:

"For Aston Villa, Remi Garde has become a priority because Arsène Wenger has pushed them to go for the former Lyon manager. Wenger has reportedly encouraged Chief Executive Tom Fox and Sporting Director Hendrik Almstadt to appoint Garde, the latter individual of course being a former employee at Arsenal.

Garde is very much considered by Arsène Wenger as a possible replacement for him at Arsenal, but Remi Garde must prove his credentials in the Premier League first."

Who said this? The idea that Wenger would be pushing Villa to appoint a manager is ludicrous.  I don't doubt Fox would have sounded out various people's opinions of Garde but to turn that into some narrative that Villa would be grooming him to succeed Wenger is ridiculous.  If Arsenal want to groom him to be their boss they can make him their number two. 

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #886 on: October 26, 2015, 05:31:07 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #887 on: October 26, 2015, 05:31:45 PM »
How do you mean, bad? Are you not going to be able to warn us any more. I really would miss your Woe, Woe and thrice Woe.
My fear is around which sane , quality manager would come?

Remi Garde would seem to have an interest. It's been in the papers a bit today.

Obviously not sane or quality. After all why would anyone want to manage in the PL and get paid handsomely, with an opportunity to restore a great club to glory and enhance their own career? I agree we should be setting our targets much lower. I too am worried we are acting above our station here and we need to accept that all will be shit forever. Raise the white flag.


I giggled :)

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #888 on: October 26, 2015, 05:32:24 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.
They've been reading Juan Pablo on here!

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #889 on: October 26, 2015, 05:34:16 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

If the back room staff really want to join Villa they'd just quit their jobs and let compensation be sorted. Can't be that much for back room staff.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #890 on: October 26, 2015, 05:36:47 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

Oh come the fuck on. If we end up appointing Nigel Pearson because Metz wouldn't release a physio I'm going to lose it.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #891 on: October 26, 2015, 05:39:46 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

Oh come the fuck on. If we end up appointing Nigel Pearson because Metz wouldn't release a physio I'm going to lose it.
Zis.

Offline Russ aka Big Nose

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #892 on: October 26, 2015, 05:47:48 PM »
It's heartening to know someone else cares even if he is treating us like his nursery club:

"For Aston Villa, Remi Garde has become a priority because Arsène Wenger has pushed them to go for the former Lyon manager. Wenger has reportedly encouraged Chief Executive Tom Fox and Sporting Director Hendrik Almstadt to appoint Garde, the latter individual of course being a former employee at Arsenal.

Garde is very much considered by Arsène Wenger as a possible replacement for him at Arsenal, but Remi Garde must prove his credentials in the Premier League first."

Who said this? The idea that Wenger would be pushing Villa to appoint a manager is ludicrous.  I don't doubt Fox would have sounded out various people's opinions of Garde but to turn that into some narrative that Villa would be grooming him to succeed Wenger is ridiculous.  If Arsenal want to groom him to be their boss they can make him their number two. 

Not that I necessarily believe that Wenger is pushing Villa to appoint Garde so that he (Garde) might take the reins at Aresenal when Wenger retires, but I disagree with the notion that succession planning means serving a stint as assistant manager and then getting the top job.

It makes sense to me to have in place a good assistant manager and identify potential managerial appointments that would be capable of working alongside an assistant manager/first team coach that stays in place. Many (most?) assistant managers are not suited to being the manager as it requires different skills and a different approach.

Plus it mitigates the turmoil when the manager goes and the majority of the backroom staff leave at the same time - whether they are fired or just move on as they are part of 'his team' and they follow the departed manager.

Stability and a consistent approach to coaching, recruitment and managing players would seem a sensible ambition with succession planning - not that it is much in evidence at Villa or most/any clubs.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #893 on: October 26, 2015, 05:56:10 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

Just throw some money at the problem. Outside of PSG there are zero French clubs who we cant just dangle some Euros under their noses and they will release whoever we damn well want.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #894 on: October 26, 2015, 05:57:33 PM »
Depends if you count Monaco as French. Lyon are Champions League regulars so won't be skint. I'd imagine Marseille have a few quid too, unless they've spent it all on bribes.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #895 on: October 26, 2015, 05:58:38 PM »
Right so Dwight Yorke thinks he is the man for the job :/ wow.
Yes quite and I am waiting for Mark Tosspot Bosnich to throw his hat in the ring.
I don't think it was his hat he used for that.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #896 on: October 26, 2015, 06:00:14 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

Just throw some money at the problem. Outside of PSG there are zero French clubs who we cant just dangle some Euros under their noses and they will release whoever we damn well want.
Offer them Charles NZog for a nominal fee.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #897 on: October 26, 2015, 06:01:30 PM »
How do you mean, bad? Are you not going to be able to warn us any more. I really would miss your Woe, Woe and thrice Woe.
My fear is around which sane , quality manager would come? I think we are very much in what i would call a sub prime managerial search , or someone unhinged like Pearson or Ranieri
Do you ever engage your brain before posting?
Ranieri is unhinged?
One of, if not the most considered and considerate managers in the PL at the moment.

Edit:
For the record, Pearson isn't unhinged, he never had his hinges fitted.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2015, 06:14:54 PM by Villa in Denmark »

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #898 on: October 26, 2015, 06:05:39 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

Oh come the fuck on. If we end up appointing Nigel Pearson because Metz wouldn't release a physio I'm going to lose it.
If the Garde story really has anything behind it, it's probably media hyperbole where the real comment was something along the lines of, "there's some work to do to get his backroom staff released."

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #899 on: October 26, 2015, 06:07:44 PM »
Well according to The Telegraph, the Garde deal is in danger of going belly up because of problems with getting his preferred backroom staff released from their current employers.

Oh come the fuck on. If we end up appointing Nigel Pearson because Metz wouldn't release a physio I'm going to lose it.
If the Garde story really has anything behind it, it's probably media hyperbole where the real comment was something along the lines of, "there's some work to do to get his backroom staff released."

It'll probably be a bit like in the summer when the Traoré/Veretout/Lescott/Amavi/Gueye deals were bound to have fallen through because they hadn't been finalised within a few hours of us hearing about them.

 


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