Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?

[Dante Lavelli]

I'll put my *ahem* reputation on the line and say I'd be happy (that alone is unusual) with Remi Garde.  I remember reading about him when he was being linked with the Newcastle job and being jealous that seemed to have such imagination and we were in Lambersherwoodwonderland.

There's going to be a lot of jealously if we get him. So called experts will probably dismiss him because he chose us only later to sing his praises and claim he's ideal to replace Wenger or manage the French national team.

Wouldn't it be great if Arsenal were coming after him in two/three seasons time.  It'd suggest that he'd have done a great job and got us playing decent football.  I think that scenario is almost the perfect one, rather than a negative against appointing him.

[Monty]

And now look who's come to throw in his (or possibly the Monaco dog's) twopennies' worth - none other than himself, the Don Corleone of the old-boys' mafia, the Flappiest Mouth in the West, Harry Redknapp:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11954373/Harry-Redknapp-We-need-to-see-more-British-boys-managing-our-clubs.html

Too long to post all of it, but highlights include: "Rémi Garde is now looking massive favourite for the Aston Villa job but, with the greatest respect, why? What’s he done?" (why not read an article about it, you slothful git - oh wait, you 'can't read', I remember now - especially dubious contracts with shadowy third parties); and "how often do British managers get an opportunity to manage in Italy, Germany or France? They encourage their own" (or - their own managers aren't brickheaded old pros from the '90s who fancy taking a break from yapping about how 'simple' the game is from the MOTD sofa in order to go out and show those overcomplicating, untrustworthy foreigners how it's fackin' done mate).

[sickbeggar]

Manager in "signing players he knows" shocker. None of TS Spurs rejects would have filled me with joy but at least he would have known their capabilities and what he hoped to get out of them. .

Like that's any more comforting.

He wanted to spend 14m on Andros Townsend. 14m. He wanted to sign Adebayor, a man who later said he didn't come because he didn't get a sign from god that it was the right move. And Aaron Lennon, who is basically a slightly faster Charles N'Zogbia.

 I agree totally. I just think we'd be higher in the league with players he knew what to do with and knew him, rather than obviously not having a clue what any of the recent signings brought to the table.  Maybe he couldn't get them but i think its a safe bet that those 4 cost a hell of a lot more in wages than who we did buy which i'm guessing was the reason he didn't get them

[PeterWithesShin]

No mention of course about Vlaar and his injury problems or his regular shitness when he did play. And who else knew we loaned TC from Everton? They really do spout any old bollocks to support their mates.

Tim Sherwood has left Aston Villa but, during the summer, he also lost his three best players. Fabian Delph, Christian Benteke and Ron Vlaar all went and Tom Cleverley returned to Everton.

[paul_e]

Manager in "signing players he knows" shocker. None of TS Spurs rejects would have filled me with joy but at least he would have known their capabilities and what he hoped to get out of them. .

Like that's any more comforting.

He wanted to spend 14m on Andros Townsend. 14m. He wanted to sign Adebayor, a man who later said he didn't come because he didn't get a sign from god that it was the right move. And Aaron Lennon, who is basically a slightly faster Charles N'Zogbia.

 I agree totally. I just think we'd be higher in the league with players he knew what to do with and knew him, rather than obviously not having a clue what any of the recent signings brought to the table.  Maybe he couldn't get them but i think its a safe bet that those 4 cost a hell of a lot more in wages than who we did buy which i'm guessing was the reason he didn't get them

Or you could read back up the thread and see that the only one where that is possibly true is Lennon, Cambiasso wanted to go to Greece, Townsend didn't want to leave Spurs and God didn't tell Adebayor to join us so those 3 would only maybe have happened if we'd offered contracts vastly over their real value.  Given we've spent 5 seasons getting rid of shit players on vastly exaggerated contracts I can understand why that wasn't an option.  Let's add Begovic as well, who we spoke to but who went to Chelsea instead, that's 5 and the club backed him on all of them.  To me when Sherwood wasn't getting anything done and the fans started to turn the 'committee' took it into their own hands and started making signings, which I think is ok, we needed them.

[sickbeggar]

No mention of course about Vlaar and his injury problems or his regular shitness when he did play. And who else knew we loaned TC from Everton? They really do spout any old bollocks to support their mates.

Tim Sherwood has left Aston Villa but, during the summer, he also lost his three best players. Fabian Delph, Christian Benteke and Ron Vlaar all went and Tom Cleverley returned to Everton.

We did lose our best and 2nd best player though. Considering we were shite anyway last year it was a big blow.

[PeterWithesShin]

Benteke yes, I don't think Ghana is much of a downgrade on Delph though, in fact I think he'll be better for us.

[Stirchley Villain]

Benteke yes, I don't think Ghana is much of a downgrade on Delph though, in fact I think he'll be better for us.

Losing Benteke was a seismic blow... especially as we bought two poor strikers with the money.

[Damo70]

Any mention of Harry Redknapp being our next manager makes me laugh. Then I remember when we appointed McLeish and I stop laughing.

[Stirchley Villain]

Any mention of Harry Redknapp being our next manager makes me laugh. Then I remember when we appointed McLeish and I stop laughing.

It would be fantastic... for the comedy aspect alone.

[sickbeggar]

Manager in "signing players he knows" shocker. None of TS Spurs rejects would have filled me with joy but at least he would have known their capabilities and what he hoped to get out of them. .

Like that's any more comforting.

He wanted to spend 14m on Andros Townsend. 14m. He wanted to sign Adebayor, a man who later said he didn't come because he didn't get a sign from god that it was the right move. And Aaron Lennon, who is basically a slightly faster Charles N'Zogbia.

 I agree totally. I just think we'd be higher in the league with players he knew what to do with and knew him, rather than obviously not having a clue what any of the recent signings brought to the table.  Maybe he couldn't get them but i think its a safe bet that those 4 cost a hell of a lot more in wages than who we did buy which i'm guessing was the reason he didn't get them

Or you could read back up the thread and see that the only one where that is possibly true is Lennon, Cambiasso wanted to go to Greece, Townsend didn't want to leave Spurs and God didn't tell Adebayor to join us so those 3 would only maybe have happened if we'd offered contracts vastly over their real value.  Given we've spent 5 seasons getting rid of shit players on vastly exaggerated contracts I can understand why that wasn't an option.  Let's add Begovic as well, who we spoke to but who went to Chelsea instead, that's 5 and the club backed him on all of them.  To me when Sherwood wasn't getting anything done and the fans started to turn the 'committee' took it into their own hands and started making signings, which I think is ok, we needed them.

well i think all of them would have come if we'd paid them what they wanted,apart from Begovic, ie what they were on at spurs/offered by Olympaicos or near as dammit. Not saying we should have paid them that. I wouldn't have. BUT you have to back the manager on the players he wants. Otherwise why employ him? I don't want garde or whoever is to come in to target a player, and then some committee tell him he's too expensive and offer their own cheaper version. None of these people have any experience in coaching top flight players

[Stirchley Villain]

I'll put my *ahem* reputation on the line and say I'd be happy (that alone is unusual) with Remi Garde.  I remember reading about him when he was being linked with the Newcastle job and being jealous that seemed to have such imagination and we were in Lambersherwoodwonderland.

There's going to be a lot of jealously if we get him. So called experts will probably dismiss him because he chose us only later to sing his praises and claim he's ideal to replace Wenger or manage the French national team.

Wouldn't it be great if Arsenal were coming after him in two/three seasons time.  It'd suggest that he'd have done a great job and got us playing decent football.  I think that scenario is almost the perfect one, rather than a negative against appointing him.

I think you might be getting a bit ahead of yourself 😉

[brontebilly]

No mention of course about Vlaar and his injury problems or his regular shitness when he did play. And who else knew we loaned TC from Everton? They really do spout any old bollocks to support their mates.

Tim Sherwood has left Aston Villa but, during the summer, he also lost his three best players. Fabian Delph, Christian Benteke and Ron Vlaar all went and Tom Cleverley returned to Everton.

All four of them have been pretty much injured since leaving the club too.

Delph and Benteke were outstanding against Liverpool in the semi but we did finish 17th so maybe that Fab Four weren't exactly all that

[Toronto Villa]

I'll put my *ahem* reputation on the line and say I'd be happy (that alone is unusual) with Remi Garde.  I remember reading about him when he was being linked with the Newcastle job and being jealous that seemed to have such imagination and we were in Lambersherwoodwonderland.

There's going to be a lot of jealously if we get him. So called experts will probably dismiss him because he chose us only later to sing his praises and claim he's ideal to replace Wenger or manage the French national team.

Wouldn't it be great if Arsenal were coming after him in two/three seasons time.  It'd suggest that he'd have done a great job and got us playing decent football.  I think that scenario is almost the perfect one, rather than a negative against appointing him.

I think you might be getting a bit ahead of yourself 😉

It's a bit like when someone predicted Lambert would be using us as a stepping stone to managing Dortmund.

[paul_e]

Benteke yes, I don't think Ghana is much of a downgrade on Delph though, in fact I think he'll be better for us.

Losing Benteke was a seismic blow... especially as we bought two poor strikers with the money.

No, we bought a central midfielder, a right winger and 2 strikers and put some towards a left back as well. (Veretout, Traore, Ayew, Gestede together were about £30m)

Of those 3 I think Gestede was a poor signing, I'm pretty sure I said on here that I thought he was the wrong choice as well, just didn't look mobile enough when I'd seen him and what we've seen since backs that up.  I think the other 3 have shown enough to suggest they can become good premier league players so I don't think the money was spent that terribly other than we needed better than Gestede, but I didn't really have an option because I don't think Austin was the answer either, Breel Embolo looked like a fantastic option but he's only 18 so it'd have been a big risk.