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Author Topic: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?  (Read 295901 times)

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #555 on: October 25, 2015, 11:21:21 PM »
The MOTD2 boys have just nailed it. Net spend £5m . Shocking.

Did they mention the complete lack of having any clue how he wanted us to play? Five at the back vs Stoke? Playing Gestede with no wingers? Or any of the other multitude of failings he showed this season?
No they focused on the loss of all our best players, the inexperienced ones who have come in and said sherwood couldn't sign his choice of players eg. Cambiasso, Lennon, Townsend and Adebayour . Then they mentioned a net spend of £5m and all shook their heads i

So they spouted the usual shite while defending their mate and showing how fucking thick they must be to believe that shite while ignoring the long list of failings that Sherwood showed this season.

I'm not surprised.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #556 on: October 25, 2015, 11:21:32 PM »
A two tier continental approach with Halmstadt as DOF and Garde as Head Coach? This is another complete gamble but one which might bring out the best in the players that we currently have. Personally, I'd rather go with Hughes or Moyes if they wanted it but this is potentially very interesting.

Newby, Halmstadt is not now or ever has been our DoF. I'm amazed people keep saying he is.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #557 on: October 25, 2015, 11:21:52 PM »
MOTD just now talking about Sherwood, not a single word about his mistakes, not one.

Of course they haven't. I was thinking about this more earlier, and the club backed Sherwood on Adebayor to the point he took his medical and then backed out. If Sherwood had managed to get him, I would wager we would be 4-6 points better off and just outside the bottom 3 and he would likely still be in a job. He didn't convince him, it was his man and he did not get it done, so when he moans about the quality, maybe he should have worked with them to find an alternative option to a nutcase that the club were still willing to back with huge wages. He can peddle the not my signings stuff through his mates all day long, but the fact Amavi, Vertout, Ayew, Gueye and Traore have all looked, in glimpses, far better than some of the shit we have signed in recent times it is just not a credible argument. Yes the manager should have more of a say than others in transfers, but it is up to the manager to work with the recruitment team, not just get the hump and not play who they buy.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #558 on: October 25, 2015, 11:22:02 PM »
The small budget we had was lavished with the Benteke and Delph money with one or two others going too. We had a fair enough wedge to spend to make sure we got good value for two or three positions. With what we have a good 3 players in and another couple of fillers and then we're a mid-table team on the up. Instead the club decide to not make a centre-forward their number one priority. Whoever called that one is deserving of the sack. For the money we had we should have prioritised, we didn't, and so we look a mess of okay players.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #559 on: October 25, 2015, 11:22:08 PM »
There's no getting away from the net spend though.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #560 on: October 25, 2015, 11:22:16 PM »
MOTD just now talking about Sherwood, not a single word about his mistakes, not one.

What's that moist slapping sound? Oh it's nothing, just the punditocracy having another circlejerk.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #561 on: October 25, 2015, 11:23:11 PM »
There's no getting away from the net spend though.

Fucking hell

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #562 on: October 25, 2015, 11:23:37 PM »
We needed a goal scorer a keeper and a RB. Another £20-25m was needed.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #563 on: October 25, 2015, 11:24:48 PM »
We needed a goal scorer a keeper and a RB. Another £20-25m was needed.

That's a completely different conversation than the one you constantly insist on punishing us with.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #564 on: October 25, 2015, 11:25:19 PM »
MOTD just now talking about Sherwood, not a single word about his mistakes, not one.

What's that moist slapping sound? Oh it's nothing, just the punditocracy having another circlejerk.

"We know he wanted to get his own players in - Aaron Lennon, Townsend and Adebayor"

While keeping a straight face, FFS.

Meanwhile every single person watching, who has frequently paid to watch their team, will have been saying "fucking hell".

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #565 on: October 25, 2015, 11:25:45 PM »


Anyone know what the net spend was?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #566 on: October 25, 2015, 11:26:42 PM »
There's no getting away from the net spend though.

Net spend?  Hmmm haven't we discussed this before, it sounds familiar.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #567 on: October 25, 2015, 11:26:55 PM »


Anyone know what the net spend was?

I thought it was 7 million

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #568 on: October 25, 2015, 11:27:08 PM »
But I think Sherwood was culpable for the goalscorer sticking all his eggs in a mad man that was too interested in getting 5 million out of Spurs than coming here. That was his fault. A keeper, I agree, and after going for Begovic there should have been a plan B, right back - Hutton has proved that he is adequate for bottom half prem again, Bacuna is back up. Nice to have, but not essential.

I think him washing his hands of the transfers is covering his own arse from his involvement too.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #569 on: October 25, 2015, 11:27:31 PM »
The MOTD2 boys have just nailed it. Net spend £5m . Shocking.

And if we hadn't reeled in £45M in incoming fees you and they would have a point.

We've gone through this so many times it's barely worth doing it again, but the last time I asked you how we should have achieved spending more money, your answer was to not buy Ayew and Gestede (fair enough) and buy Austin for the rumoured £15M, which would have resulted in spending. £1M more.

Personally I'd have avoided Gestede and when it became clear there was no one else, tried to get Austin, but still have gone for Ayew.

For the record, here's the figures I could find for the last 3 years transfers for the club's we could be realistically comparing ourselves with. Some of the periods are out, Weimann shows in 2014/15 for example, but the general gist of it should be OK.

To me it says the problem is not so much with how much we've spending, but who we've been spending it on and how we've coached them afterwards.


Southampton
2015/16 Sold £37.5M Purchased £25.5M Net £12M Gain
2014/15 Sold £104.5M Purchased £66.4M Net £38.0M Gain
2014/13 Sold £0.0 Purchased £36.0M Net £36.0M Loss
Overall Net £14M Gain
 
Swansea
2015/16 Sold £0.5M Purchased £5.0M Net £4.5M Loss
2014/15 Sold £43.0M Purchased £15.9M Net £28.9M Gain
2013/14 Sold £0.0M Purchased £19.5M Net £19.5M Loss
Overall Net £4.5M Gain
 
Us
2015/16 Sold £40.5M Purchased £48.6M Net £8.1M Loss
2014/15 Sold £4.5M Purchased £10.4M Net £5.9M Loss
2013/14 Sold £0.0M Purchased £17.2M Net £17.2M Loss
Overall Net £31.2M Loss
 
Everton
2015/16 Sold £0.0M Purchased £14.0M Net £14.0M Loss
2014/15 Sold £0.0M Purchased £37.1M Net £37.1M Loss
2013/14 Sold £40.0M Purchased £21.0M Net £19M Gain
Overall Net £32.1M Loss
 
Crystal Palace
2015/16 Sold £4.0M Purchased £13.5M Net £9.5M Loss
2014/15 Sold £0.0 Purchased £12.9M Net £12.9M Loss
2013/14 Sold £0.0 Purchased £10.7M Net £10.7M Loss
Overall Net £33.1M Loss
 
Newcastle
2015/16 Sold £0.6M Purchased £49.4M Net £48.8M Loss
2014/15 Sold £12.0M Purchased £17.0M Net £5M Loss
2013/14 Sold £19.8 Purchased £0.0M Net £19.8M Gain
Overall Net £34.0M Loss
 
WBA
2015/16 Sold £2.0M Purchased £29.0M Net £27M Loss
2014/15 Sold £0.0M Purchased £16.3M Net 16.3M Loss
2013/14 Sold £9.3M Purchased £6.0M Net £3.3M Gain
Overall Net £40M LossA
 
Sunderland
2015/16 Sold £0.0M Purchased £30.5M Net £30.5M Loss
2014/15 Sold £2.1M Purchased £16.0M Net £16.0M Loss
2013/14 Sold £11.0M Purchased £18.9M Net £7.9M Loss
Overall Net £54.4M Loss
 
West Ham
2015/16 Sold £5.5M Purchased £32.8M Net £27.3M Loss
2014/15 Sold £3,5M Purchased £41.5M Net £38.0M Loss
2014/13 Sold £0.0M Purchased £20.0M Net £20.0M Loss
Overall Net £85.3M Loss
 
 


 


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