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Offline supertom

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #105 on: October 25, 2015, 12:15:55 PM »
It would not surprise me at all to see Kozak back in the frame when we appoint a new manager. We've got ball playing attacking midfielders who can keep it and feed a striker like Kozak who can find space in the box. He's more a poacher than a target man. As long as our new boss has at least a modicum of intelligence, they'll know who to utilize the talent we have at our disposal. I think Sanchez will be back in the side. Veretout should get more of a chance.
But will the new boss FINALLY drop Gabby? I hope so. There are a few players who continue to somehow get played week in, week out.

As for the new boss. I think in this position we probably need Prem experience. Moyes would organise us and I think we have a lot of similarities to Everton. I think we'd perhaps be a good match for him. Rodgers may offer more of a long term style, but I'm not sure how reliable he is when the going gets tough. Again though, he suffered from having overachieved in that first season at Liverpool. After losing Saurez there wasn't a hope in hell they could match that. Their squad was never top 4 quality.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #106 on: October 25, 2015, 12:17:47 PM »
The last thing we need is a short-term horses for courses. We need a long-term strategy and the willingness to back the manager financially for a minimum of one transfer window. That's where you've fallen down and not been able to attract the good managers. Why would a half-decent manager come in when they're set up to fail?
We can't have a long term strategy when the owner is trying to sell can we?

of course we can. Long term strategies are needed in any business and are vital for short-term gain.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #107 on: October 25, 2015, 12:17:59 PM »
We have loads of exciting wingers. Has any winger ever looked any good under Moyes?

There's not much point in getting him if we have to write off Grealish, Gil, Traore and Sinclair before we even start.

Plus surely he'd be even more likely to keep picking that donkey Lescott.

I'd prefer Rodgers because he made even average wingers like Routledge look good and Sinclair was shit-hot under his management IIRC.
Pienaar looked good under Moyes. Osman also played fairly well as an attacking mid, floating and picking up space in the box, so I wouldn't entirely write off Grealish if Moyes came in. Gil could certainly take up the Arteta role too.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #108 on: October 25, 2015, 12:18:22 PM »
Well Sherwood is gone now, so let's see who gets the Guernsey

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #109 on: October 25, 2015, 12:21:39 PM »
It wouldn't shock me if the board put out an S.O.S to Redknapp for rest of season. Cue obvious meltdown on here and VT.

He did take over Spurs when they were bottom with two points and kept them up.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #110 on: October 25, 2015, 12:23:58 PM »
It wouldn't shock me if the board put out an S.O.S to Redknapp for rest of season. Cue obvious meltdown on here and VT.

He did take over Spurs when they were bottom with two points and kept them up.

Spurs and Redknapp = the perfect match. 

Wouldn't work here.

Moyes and Villa works.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #111 on: October 25, 2015, 12:28:42 PM »
The last thing we need is a short-term horses for courses. We need a long-term strategy and the willingness to back the manager financially for a minimum of one transfer window. That's where you've fallen down and not been able to attract the good managers. Why would a half-decent manager come in when they're set up to fail?
We can't have a long term strategy when the owner is trying to sell can we?

of course we can. Long term strategies are needed in any business and are vital for short-term gain.
I'm all for long term strategy. The only problem is we may have to risk going down first before we can fully see the benefits. Now as long as we can see some sort of viable style being implemented, even if results aren't great, then the fans may be patient. Houllier for example seemed to have a plan in place for how he wanted us to play, and how he might implement the younger players. Of course as far as Sherwood went, it was patently clear he just had no clue.

As an example looking at that list, I think Frank De Boer would do well, but the risk is, coming to a new league it may take time. Likewise with Klinsmann. A foreign coach really needs to hit the ground running and adapt pretty fast.

I'm torn. Moyes doesn't necessarily have to be just a short term solution, but he's already shown there's a brick wall he probably won't get beyond. But in all honesty, for us to get where he took Everton would take 3-4 years minimum anyway, so that in itself, becoming top 6 would be a long term project. It's still a punt taking on Moyes or Rodgers undoubtedly, but at least they know the league inside out. I wouldn't be adverse to AVB at all either, but suspect he's out of our price range.


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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #112 on: October 25, 2015, 12:29:25 PM »
It'll be Nigel Pearson

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #113 on: October 25, 2015, 12:29:42 PM »
We have loads of exciting wingers. Has any winger ever looked any good under Moyes?

There's not much point in getting him if we have to write off Grealish, Gil, Traore and Sinclair before we even start.

Plus surely he'd be even more likely to keep picking that donkey Lescott.

I'd prefer Rodgers because he made even average wingers like Routledge look good and Sinclair was shit-hot under his management IIRC.
Pienaar looked good under Moyes. Osman also played fairly well as an attacking mid, floating and picking up space in the box, so I wouldn't entirely write off Grealish if Moyes came in. Gil could certainly take up the Arteta role too.

Maybe. I'd only say Arteta of those three would be classed as "exciting".

I think he'd try to make us solid but not sure we have the players to do it at present and can't afford to just write off the period till the transfer window opens.

I'd rather someone with a reputation for expansive football given the squad we have at present.

Oh, and I missed off Ayew in my initial post.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #114 on: October 25, 2015, 12:33:35 PM »
We have loads of exciting wingers. Has any winger ever looked any good under Moyes?

There's not much point in getting him if we have to write off Grealish, Gil, Traore and Sinclair before we even start.

Plus surely he'd be even more likely to keep picking that donkey Lescott.

I'd prefer Rodgers because he made even average wingers like Routledge look good and Sinclair was shit-hot under his management IIRC.
Pienaar looked good under Moyes. Osman also played fairly well as an attacking mid, floating and picking up space in the box, so I wouldn't entirely write off Grealish if Moyes came in. Gil could certainly take up the Arteta role too.

Maybe. I'd only say Arteta of those three would be classed as "exciting".

I think he'd try to make us solid but not sure we have the players to do it at present and can't afford to just write off the period till the transfer window opens.

I'd rather someone with a reputation for expansive football given the squad we have at present.

Oh, and I missed off Ayew in my initial post.

He didn't exactly have too many flair players at his disposal though, didn't he? I mean, I suppose that's a reflection of his transfer strategy, but then again, working on the limited budget he had I'm sure he didn't have much cash to spare to spunk out on more than a couple of those types of players with actual quality.

I'm not confident he'd get the most out of Grealish, Gil, etc. either, but I wouldn't write it down just yet.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #115 on: October 25, 2015, 12:34:21 PM »
He was there about forty years. If he didn't have any flair players, that's his choice.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #116 on: October 25, 2015, 12:37:04 PM »
Well, it looks like the two games to save his job theory has been proved correct, so it does stand to reason they've got someone to takeover in mind. Maybe Mac's in charge for the Cup game while we're in contract negotiations with our first choice...God, I hope it's not Pearson, he's nearly as big a twat as Sherwood.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #117 on: October 25, 2015, 12:37:26 PM »
What we need is a next Big Ron Atkinson type, but there is no obvious choice. I would love to see what would new Ron Saunders do with our players.

Offline gabbythelegend

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #118 on: October 25, 2015, 12:39:46 PM »
Laudrup or Rowett for me please.

Offline supertom

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #119 on: October 25, 2015, 12:40:10 PM »
We have loads of exciting wingers. Has any winger ever looked any good under Moyes?

There's not much point in getting him if we have to write off Grealish, Gil, Traore and Sinclair before we even start.

Plus surely he'd be even more likely to keep picking that donkey Lescott.

I'd prefer Rodgers because he made even average wingers like Routledge look good and Sinclair was shit-hot under his management IIRC.
Pienaar looked good under Moyes. Osman also played fairly well as an attacking mid, floating and picking up space in the box, so I wouldn't entirely write off Grealish if Moyes came in. Gil could certainly take up the Arteta role too.

Maybe. I'd only say Arteta of those three would be classed as "exciting".

I think he'd try to make us solid but not sure we have the players to do it at present and can't afford to just write off the period till the transfer window opens.

I'd rather someone with a reputation for expansive football given the squad we have at present.

Oh, and I missed off Ayew in my initial post.

He didn't exactly have too many flair players at his disposal though, didn't he? I mean, I suppose that's a reflection of his transfer strategy, but then again, working on the limited budget he had I'm sure he didn't have much cash to spare to spunk out on more than a couple of those types of players with actual quality.

I'm not confident he'd get the most out of Grealish, Gil, etc. either, but I wouldn't write it down just yet.
It depends just how much emphasis we place on results. In all honesty one thing Sherwood was correct about last season was that someone like Gil was going to be a bit of a passenger when we need to grind out results. Grealish will certainly get his chance under someone like Moyes, as would Gil, but I don't think it's necessarily going to be a bad thing for us to be quite workmanlike in games. Everton didn't play the most exciting football under Moyes, but they still played some half decent stuff at times. I'd sooner see us looking like we have a game plan rather than, as we were under Lambert this time last year, having 60% possession but 1-2 shots on target a game and inevitably losing.
At least Moyes will identify our stronger players and try to get the best out of them.

Before worrying about the flair players, I'm hoping we can find some resilience somewhere. If we get a solid base in defence. Get them well drilled and stick Gana and Sanchez in the middle to shield, then there's a little freedom for three midfielders ahead to express themselves a little more and provide service for the front man.

 


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