Aston Villa vs Swansea post match thread

[saunders_heroes]

We explicitly said we wanted this 'Premier League experience' thing, which stopped us even asking the likes of Koeman and Pochettino if they wanted the job. How can you know that 'every other decent manager' turned us down if we only asked about two decent managers?

How do you know we didn't? I'm not naive in believing every bit of PR hype the club spouts.

[pauliewalnuts]

We explicitly said we wanted this 'Premier League experience' thing, which stopped us even asking the likes of Koeman and Pochettino if they wanted the job. How can you know that 'every other decent manager' turned us down if we only asked about two decent managers?

How do you know we didn't? I'm not naive in believing every bit of PR hype the club spouts.

In the same way, how do you know anything about decent managers having turned us down?

Lambert was a sensible appointment at the time. I bet if i go back and look at the time of his appointment, you were happy with it.

The bigger mistake was not appointing him. It was letting him have 2.5 years to be shit in.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'd be interested to see Gestede's stats today. One thing is not being given the right service or being expected to do things that you're really not capable of but bloody running should be one of them. Maybe he was saving energy should the game go into extra time. Everybody else really put a shift in or at least that's how it appeared to me.

[Monty]

We explicitly said we wanted this 'Premier League experience' thing, which stopped us even asking the likes of Koeman and Pochettino if they wanted the job. How can you know that 'every other decent manager' turned us down if we only asked about two decent managers?

How do you know we didn't? I'm not naive in believing every bit of PR hype the club spouts.

Okay then, Open-Eyed One. What evidence do you have to the contrary? The club consistently talked about finding someone with 'Premier League experience', and everyone we know was interviewed had it, to some degree. How do you know Pochettino or someone like him turned us down?

[eric woolban woolban]

We may as well just resign from the league. This club is finished I'm afraid.

[ChicagoLion]

I'd be interested to see Gestede's stats today. One thing is not being given the right service or being expected to do things that you're really not capable of but bloody running should be one of them. Maybe he was saving energy should the game go into extra time. Everybody else really put a shift in or at least that's how it appeared to me.

Totally out of his depth at this level, should be an impact player off the bench at best.

[saunders_heroes]

We explicitly said we wanted this 'Premier League experience' thing, which stopped us even asking the likes of Koeman and Pochettino if they wanted the job. How can you know that 'every other decent manager' turned us down if we only asked about two decent managers?

How do you know we didn't? I'm not naive in believing every bit of PR hype the club spouts.

In the same way, how do you know anything about decent managers having turned us down?

There were rumours Benetiz turned us down. I heard a journalist on 5 Live say that he knew for a fact Benetiz wanted the Villa job and even went for an interview. The club showed him what kind of budget he'd receive and he laughed and got up and walked out.
Others rumours about Moyes turning us down as well. Okay these are only rumours, but considering the type of rubbish we've (mainly) signed for the last 6 years I tend to believe them.
Look if you want to believe we've just been unlucky for the last 6 seasons then you're very much entitled to that view. I certainly don't, and my finger of blame is firmly pointed at Randy Lerner.

As for Lambert, yeah I remember thinking "okay that might be good". Little did I know his budget would stretch to a handle of players signed for decent money and the rest made up with lower league rubbish signed for peanuts. Whose fault is that? The man who organises the budget.

[rougegorge]

Swansea were poor until we scored but identified a weakness at left back and exposed it.

I can't think of any team that has survived after 4pts from 10 games. I'll be amazed if any manager gets us out of this. We may think we've got some good players but we've got plenty who aren't good enough.

Next season our coverage highlights  will be Friday nights live , the Tuesday night vidiprinter with Jools on Sky and 2 minutes with George Riley and Kelly Cates  on 5.

[Monty]

Well maybe we're not naive enough to believe any guff rumour we hear. And there's a big gap between the profiles of McLeish and Benitez - who, you may notice, also had 'Premier League experience.'

[Rudy Can't Fail]

How on earth did richardson stay on for the full game?

Indeed. He'd been booked, was getting skinned and we had TWO left backs on the bench. Answers on a postcard to:

Tactics Tim
Villa Park
Trinity Road
Birmingham
B6 6HE

[pauliewalnuts]

We explicitly said we wanted this 'Premier League experience' thing, which stopped us even asking the likes of Koeman and Pochettino if they wanted the job. How can you know that 'every other decent manager' turned us down if we only asked about two decent managers?

How do you know we didn't? I'm not naive in believing every bit of PR hype the club spouts.

In the same way, how do you know anything about decent managers having turned us down?

There was rumours Benetiz turned us down. I heard a journalist on 5 Live say that he knew for a fact Benetiz wanted the Villa job and even went for an interview. The club showed him what kind of budget he'd receive and he laughed and got up and walked out.
Others rumours about Moyes turning us down as well. Okay these are only rumours, but considering the type of rubbish we've (mainly) signed for the last 6 years I tend to believe them.
Look if you want to believe we've just been unlucky for the last 6 seasons then you're very much entitled to that view. I certainly don't, and my finger of blame is firmly pointed at Randy Lerner.

Benitez and Moyes aren't "any other decent manager"

And what is this horse shit about believing we've been unlucky? Who the fuck even said that?

I don't know why you're even going on about Lerner over and over like people don't think he's a massive problem. What you don't seem to get is that there seem to be a lot of other problems, all of which, if we managed to fix them, would at least improve us.

TH=here's no point even whining about him. He wants to go, but he can't, because nobody wants to buy us. That can't be changed.

[PeterWithesShin]

While we didn't deserve to lose it was so fucking predictable. After they equalised I said to Leeg that it's inevitable what would happen. Showed again we have some good players that are being badly coached and managed. I'll truly despair if he's still in the job by early next week.

[olaftab]

Edited: due to excessive foul language!!

[TheWarlock]

I'm almost lost for words tbh, another clueless team selection and more individual mistake, against yet another team in need of a win and yet another sh*te home performance, time for Tim to go but also time for Lerner to hurry the f*** out the club.

[walsall villain]

Swansea were poor until we scored but identified a weakness at left back and exposed it.

I can't think of any team that has survived after 4pts from 10 games. I'll be amazed if any manager gets us out of this. We may think we've got some good players but we've got plenty who aren't good enough.

Next season our coverage highlights  will be Friday nights live , the Tuesday night vidiprinter with Jools on Sky and 2 minutes with George Riley and Kelly Cates  on 5.

Palace only had 3 points from 10 two seasons ago but it's the exception I reckon.