Aston Villa vs Swansea post match thread

[Toronto Villa]

I FEEL LIKE THE CLUB IS IN A HOLE.

You Tim are the fucker with the shovel.

[manic-road]

That's the first home game I have missed this season and I won't be going back until this bellend of a manager has gone.

[kippaxvilla2]

..our decline will only end when the disgrace that is Randy Lerner finally sells up and fucks off out of our club. He is public enemy number 1 in my opinion.

You've changed your tune.

I don't think he has.

[Tucson Villain]

Im genuinely glad we lost today - anything else and I fear the misery would have continued. If Lerner doesnt instruct Fox to fire this baffoon (and he ought be fired himself for even thinking Sherwood was big enough for the Villa job) then he clearly is happy to piss away even more of his investment.

Get Moyes in for christ's sake - won't make us top table but will rescue this season and solidify. From there progress can be made. Right now, we are not only certainties for relegation, every other side who faces us knows it and thats like conceding a goal before the players get anywhere near the pitch.

Its this week ... or we really are on the precipe of a decade of Championship football.

 

I'm not, it's all about Villa winning,whoever is in charge.

[gpbarr]

Im genuinely glad we lost today

Never this. It's a tricky situation, I agree, considering how Lambert managed to keep his job by producing 3 points every five games or so which stayed the execution, so to speak. We needed to win today though - and still sack Sherwood.

But we would not - thats the point. They would have given him another chance - as it is, Im still not sure they have reached the conclusion most others have (which is simply frightening to imagine). Yes I dont want to lose but sometimes, strategy requires a backward step. This evening - actually right now, Sherwood should be heading upstairs to receive his P45 and the call should be made to Spain .. "hi David..... 

[pauliewalnuts]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Ayew did score, worth mentioning, and personally I thoughy Gueye was our best player.

It's a manager out of his depth dragging us down, not the players. It isn't a top six squad, no, but it isn't a bottom three squad either.

I keep hearing this and I think our best 11 could get some results in this league. That team would not include Richardson, Guzan, Gestede,or Lescott who are not Premier League level. I did not think Ayew did anything other than score and is not PL quality yet.
I think a lot of people think the players are better than they are.

I think they're better than where they are in the league.

Gestede was awful today. Awful. Yet he played 90 minutes.

These are the sort of shitty mind-blowingly obvious problems Sherwood can't spot.

[pauliewalnuts]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Grealish was not excellent today whatever were you watching. Gana was very good especially in the second half. Alan Hutton cannot cross a ball,you are right there but he was still our best player. Its not even November and you think we will be relegated!  We have some very good players who with the right manager (and coaching staff) will improve in bundles. Richards is a poser? Very far from it. He gives everything and has been our best player this season.

Grealish was poor, I thought, so easily pushed off the ball every time

[Monty]

Obviously I like it when Villa win any match anywhere at any time, but if the successor comes in and does well there'll be the added bonus of shoving it in Tim Sherwood's smug face that he's no good at management.

[ChicagoLion]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Ayew did score, worth mentioning, and personally I thoughy Gueye was our best player.

It's a manager out of his depth dragging us down, not the players. It isn't a top six squad, no, but it isn't a bottom three squad either.

I keep hearing this and I think our best 11 could get some results in this league. That team would not include Richardson, Guzan, Gestede,or Lescott who are not Premier League level. I did not think Ayew did anything other than score and is not PL quality yet.
I think a lot of people think the players are better than they are.

I think they're better than where they are in the league.

Gestede was awful today. Awful. Yet he played 90 minutes.

These are the sort of shitty mind-blowingly obvious problems Sherwood can't spot.

I agree and there are a lot of them, playing Lescott, playing Guzan. Until today playing Westwood every game.
Just not playing those 3 would up our win chances, but you are right he just can not see it

[walsall villain]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Grealish was not excellent today whatever were you watching. Gana was very good especially in the second half. Alan Hutton cannot cross a ball,you are right there but he was still our best player. Its not even November and you think we will be relegated!  We have some very good players who with the right manager (and coaching staff) will improve in bundles. Richards is a poser? Very far from it. He gives everything and has been our best player this season.

We will need 35+ points from 28 games. It's been quite a while since we managed that sort of return so I would say it would hardly be a surprise if fans think we have had it already.

[Monty]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Grealish was not excellent today whatever were you watching. Gana was very good especially in the second half. Alan Hutton cannot cross a ball,you are right there but he was still our best player. Its not even November and you think we will be relegated!  We have some very good players who with the right manager (and coaching staff) will improve in bundles. Richards is a poser? Very far from it. He gives everything and has been our best player this season.

Grealish was poor, I thought, so easily pushed off the ball every time

He did good things, but overall he didn't have a good game.

[saunders_heroes]

On Final Score he seemed to be putting all the blame on the players saying things like 'if they're not up for it they shouldn't be out there' and he finished by saying the club is in a hole not him.
So you see it's every body else's fault and nothing to do with him.

Do you not think they have a point though?
Our many relegation battles have we had for the last 6 seasons and how many managers have we employed in that time?

Just because there have been quite a few managers doesn't mean any of them are any good. Which they're not.

We'd have been able to attract better managers if Lerner had a transfer/wage structure worthy of this club.

Or maybe we were able to attract them, but he wanted 'proven Premier League experience' like McLeish and Lambert. Either way, it's hardly a brilliant reflection on them.

I disagree. I think we employed those two muppets because every other decent manager we wanted turned us down.
Good managers won't go to clubs that are run on a relative shoestring.

[Monty]

We explicitly said we wanted this 'Premier League experience' thing, which stopped us even asking the likes of Koeman and Pochettino if they wanted the job. How can you know that 'every other decent manager' turned us down if we only asked about two decent managers?

[Molelol]

Think he should be given at least until Easter,don't know what all the whinging is for   Yippee Dai Day

[pauliewalnuts]

Think he should be given at least until Easter,don't know what all the whinging is for   Yippee Dai Day

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