Aston Villa vs Swansea post match thread

[gpbarr]

Im genuinely glad we lost today - anything else and I fear the misery would have continued. If Lerner doesnt instruct Fox to fire this baffoon (and he ought be fired himself for even thinking Sherwood was big enough for the Villa job) then he clearly is happy to piss away even more of his investment.

Get Moyes in for christ's sake - won't make us top table but will rescue this season and solidify. From there progress can be made. Right now, we are not only certainties for relegation, every other side who faces us knows it and thats like conceding a goal before the players get anywhere near the pitch.

Its this week ... or we really are on the precipe of a decade of Championship football.

 

[passport1]

"Couldn't believe the Holte we're actually chanting his name but it was the first time I've heard chants against Lerner. "

That at least is good news

[Monty]

On Final Score he seemed to be putting all the blame on the players saying things like 'if they're not up for it they shouldn't be out there' and he finished by saying the club is in a hole not him.
So you see it's every body else's fault and nothing to do with him.

Do you not think they have a point though?
Our many relegation battles have we had for the last 6 seasons and how many managers have we employed in that time?

Just because there have been quite a few managers doesn't mean any of them are any good. Which they're not.

[Villafirst]

Moyes will be in before next weekend.....

[russon]

Lescott's miss was as horrible as his defending. He epitomises Villa at the moment, good once but looking like a jelly legged boxer about to hit the canvass now.

[Risso]

Post match interview:

"Am I going to be in the job next week? I'm not the person to ask. I feel like the club is in a hole.

"I am disappointed with the result, we didn't deserve to lose the game. We can't carry anyone because we're getting done. At the moment we are short. If people don't give everything we'll come up short.

"There's no shortage in desire but the quality is not quite there. We're not world beaters. Our league position suggests we're not and today wasn't our day."

The usual 'not my fault guv' bollocks then.

Typical blame the players and other staff bullshit.

I genuinely dislike this bloke to DOL levels.

If the quality isn't quite there, why on earth did he keep quite obviously the worst player on the pitch (if not the entire Premier League) on until the bitter end?

[ChicagoLion]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Ayew did score, worth mentioning, and personally I thoughy Gueye was our best player.

It's a manager out of his depth dragging us down, not the players. It isn't a top six squad, no, but it isn't a bottom three squad either.

I keep hearing this and I think our best 11 could get some results in this league. That team would not include Richardson, Guzan, Gestede,or Lescott who are not Premier League level. I did not think Ayew did anything other than score and is not PL quality yet.
I think a lot of people think the players are better than they are.

[saunders_heroes]

On Final Score he seemed to be putting all the blame on the players saying things like 'if they're not up for it they shouldn't be out there' and he finished by saying the club is in a hole not him.
So you see it's every body else's fault and nothing to do with him.

Do you not think they have a point though?
Our many relegation battles have we had for the last 6 seasons and how many managers have we employed in that time?

Just because there have been quite a few managers doesn't mean any of them are any good. Which they're not.

We'd have been able to attract better managers if Lerner had a transfer/wage structure worthy of this club.

[manic-road]

Just seen him on sky he looks like a beaten man.

He's like that after every game.

[Stu]

Im genuinely glad we lost today

Never this. It's a tricky situation, I agree, considering how Lambert managed to keep his job by producing 3 points every five games or so which stayed the execution, so to speak. We needed to win today though - and still sack Sherwood.

[saunders_heroes]

Moyes will be in before next weekend.....

Yes please. I'm convinced he'd keep us up.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Post match interview:

"Am I going to be in the job next week? I'm not the person to ask. I feel like the club is in a hole.

"I am disappointed with the result, we didn't deserve to lose the game. We can't carry anyone because we're getting done. At the moment we are short. If people don't give everything we'll come up short.

"There's no shortage in desire but the quality is not quite there. We're not world beaters. Our league position suggests we're not and today wasn't our day."

The usual 'not my fault guv' bollocks then.

Exactly Tim. We cannot carry you any more as you learn the job.

Oh and actually as a club we are world beaters. We need a manager who lives up to those standards.

[Monty]

On Final Score he seemed to be putting all the blame on the players saying things like 'if they're not up for it they shouldn't be out there' and he finished by saying the club is in a hole not him.
So you see it's every body else's fault and nothing to do with him.

Do you not think they have a point though?
Our many relegation battles have we had for the last 6 seasons and how many managers have we employed in that time?

Just because there have been quite a few managers doesn't mean any of them are any good. Which they're not.

We'd have been able to attract better managers if Lerner had a transfer/wage structure worthy of this club.

Or maybe we were able to attract them, but he wanted 'proven Premier League experience' like McLeish and Lambert. Either way, it's hardly a brilliant reflection on them.

[Tayls_7]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Ayew did score, worth mentioning, and personally I thoughy Gueye was our best player.

It's a manager out of his depth dragging us down, not the players. It isn't a top six squad, no, but it isn't a bottom three squad either.

I keep hearing this and I think our best 11 could get some results in this league. That team would not include Richardson, Guzan, Gestede,or Lescott who are not Premier League level. I did not think Ayew did anything other than score and is not PL quality yet.
I think a lot of people think the players are better than they are.

Yes precisely Chicago. Grealish, who you've just waxed lyrical about.

[Ron Manager]

How can you win a game with Guzan Lescott and Gestede in a team?
I thought Bacuna was our best player.
Richards is a poser, he does not need to get involved or go diving after the ball.
Sorry Ayew just runs up blind alleys.
Ricardson is so average it is untrue.
Gana again nice touches but does not effect the game either offensively or defensively.
Hutton can not cross the ball.
Jack was excellent today and set up the goal.
Gabby at least ran about a bit but is obviously not fit.
This is a relegation team with a Manager out of his depth, we might sack Sherwood but I think it maybe too late.
The situation we are in today is because of 5 years of awful leadership and strategy by the owner.

Grealish was not excellent today whatever were you watching. Gana was very good especially in the second half. Alan Hutton cannot cross a ball,you are right there but he was still our best player. Its not even November and you think we will be relegated!  We have some very good players who with the right manager (and coaching staff) will improve in bundles. Richards is a poser? Very far from it. He gives everything and has been our best player this season.