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Online dave.woodhall

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3465 on: April 20, 2016, 01:16:41 AM »
Krulak and his puppet master have been shown up for what they are.
They won't be communicating with the fans anytime soon.
They are now in full retreat without the dignity or ability to raise themselves for any skirmish or to face the situation they have created.
These are the sort of people that only come on to the battlefield when fighting is over to shoot the wounded.
Cowards.

And the bravest thing you've ever done is?
you would be surprised, but I am not about to give you ammunition.

I don't need any. You've already said more than enough.
i guess picking on posters for being angry is pretty brave.

If you don't like being called out for what you said then don't say it.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3466 on: April 20, 2016, 01:52:29 AM »
Krulak and his puppet master have been shown up for what they are.
They won't be communicating with the fans anytime soon.
They are now in full retreat without the dignity or ability to raise themselves for any skirmish or to face the situation they have created.
These are the sort of people that only come on to the battlefield when fighting is over to shoot the wounded.
Cowards.

And the bravest thing you've ever done is?
you would be surprised, but I am not about to give you ammunition.

I don't need any. You've already said more than enough.
i guess picking on posters for being angry is pretty brave.

If you don't like being called out for what you said then don't say it.
Dave, I am finding it difficult not to get upset by what is happening to our club.
Maybe you have greater insight to what is happening. I also ask why, when you can see the mess (which is an understatement) that we are in, you decide to pull me up for venting my spleen against the perpetrators.
At the end of the day we are Villa.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3467 on: April 20, 2016, 01:56:11 AM »
I am not defending anyone. I am saying that the last two sentences in your post were disgraceful, particularly against one of the men concerned. If that's the standard of what you want to say, say it somewhere else.

Offline Scott Nielsen

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3468 on: April 20, 2016, 05:39:03 AM »
I would call Krulak a lot of things, but considering his exploits in his chosen career, "gutless", "spineless" and "coward" would not be amongst them. 

Indeed. He is, demonstrably, a courageous man. That doesn't alter the fact his behavior and actions in his time with Villa have been disappointing. Consistently dismissive of concerns raised around our finances and the timing and manner of his departure was really rather pathetic (and irreparable).

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3469 on: April 20, 2016, 07:06:07 AM »
I was never in the army - obvs - but have always thought that one of the most intriguing things is their mind-bending ability to collectively align their beliefs behind any given mission and not question the morals or logic.  To mobilise that many people and get them to 'buy-in' (i.e.  literally put their lives at risk) must take leadership of the highest quality. 

Back on topic, I feel this may be both the General's strength and weakness.  He has more than sufficient skills, personality and intelligence to deliver any plan, however he is too faithful to the owner to question the logic of the over all objective.  For that reason I have no beef with The General and do not think he deserves the personal abuse. 

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3470 on: April 20, 2016, 07:13:20 AM »
Krulak may well be very brave on the battlefield but to be honest I'm not interested in that. He and Lerner were certainly not brave when they vanished from the firing line when it went tits up at Aston Villa. That was cowardly alright.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3471 on: April 20, 2016, 07:30:01 AM »
Krulak may well be very brave on the battlefield but to be honest I'm not interested in that. He and Lerner were certainly not brave when they vanished from the firing line when it went tits up at Aston Villa. That was cowardly alright.
Lerner is a thin skinned baby incapable of  facing the consequence of his actions, hence his constant hiding behind the sofa. I just want him gone, no matter the personal  cost to him, this football business is too big and  too rough for this spoiled man child. Lerner be gone.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2016, 12:44:13 PM by Locko »

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3472 on: April 20, 2016, 07:40:22 AM »
And if that is true he will have no choice other than to cut his losses massively to sell up.  By the way was I dreaming yesterday or did I see a quote from Ellis saying the club was valued at £115m when he sold it?  Lerner won't even get that for it now.

It might have been $115m as that equated to about £65m at the time.  Currently, the $115m would equate to about £80m.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3473 on: April 20, 2016, 09:22:48 AM »
Krulak may well be very brave on the battlefield but to be honest I'm not interested in that. He and Lerner were certainly not brave when they vanished from the firing line when it went tits up at Aston Villa. That was cowardly alright.
Yet people on here were saying it was pointless him continuing and counter productive.  So doing exactly what many were suggesting is now cowardly?  Get a fucking grip.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3474 on: April 20, 2016, 09:53:37 AM »
When Randy asked The General to come back to the board his reply should of been no.Randy might of got the message.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3475 on: April 20, 2016, 10:47:16 AM »
Krulak may well be very brave on the battlefield but to be honest I'm not interested in that.

As you say, SH, his battlefield record is irrelevant - only what has happened at Villa matters. And lets face it, there's plenty to criticise there.

So the reference to his military record and the pathetic comment about being 'the type of person who only goes onto the battlefield to shoot the wounded' is utterly unnecessary and extremely distasteful in my opinion.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2016, 12:35:32 PM by SheffieldVillain »

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3476 on: April 20, 2016, 12:34:57 PM »


These are the sort of people that only come on to the battlefield when fighting is over to shoot the wounded.
Cowards.


Do you know how General Krulak earned his Silver Star?
Hint - it wasn't through shooting wounded on the battlefield when the battle is over or for being a coward.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3477 on: April 20, 2016, 12:38:21 PM »
I'd say the General is just following orders. It's just a shame that it's Lerner who's giving them.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3478 on: April 20, 2016, 12:54:57 PM »
I'd say the General is just following orders. It's just a shame that it's Lerner who's giving them.

Exactly the point

He must feel like a father who has to keep clearing up after the spoilt brat has caused another cock up somewhere - it must be tiresome

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3479 on: April 20, 2016, 01:11:25 PM »
The club made no effort in January to stay in the Premier League and everything now seems to be pointing at a lack of desire to return. The owner is showing no fight and it's no wonder this attitude has spread to the pitch.
The redundancy numbers being mentioned are frightening and will no doubt be costly in terms of pay offs. If we needed this amount of staff to run a Premier League club wouldn't we be needing them again in 12 months time if the club had any hope or desire to get immediate promotion?
We not just dropping a division, we're closing down by the looks of it.
Regarding the redundancies, I saw some figures the other day comparing our headcount with other PL clubs and we have been massively overblown. The loss of employees was, I'm afraid inevitable.
And I don't mean to sound heartless in saying that; just pointing out that Lerner's organisation and the inability to make profit has manifested itself in various ways.

 


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