Randy Lerner

[Ad@m]

For a successful billionaire i cannot believe the total lack of intelligence he has shown over the last ten years.

Just a minor point but he's not actually a successful billionaire. There's an argument after his investment disasters that's he's not even a billionaire any more. If he is, he's a very unsuccessful, inherited billionaire.

[gpbarr]

He's done little of note other than inherit a fortune from his very successful father, and run two sporting institutions into the ground.

[Clampy]

I know some of you felt my criticism of Garde was OTT, but the fact is he was the wrong man at the wrong time.  We need a manager who knows the league and can deal with problem players. Garde might have been able to punish the likes of Grealish, but the seniors just ignored him and he clearly couldn't stand up to them.

Managers need to be able to dominate players, not the other way round.

No, your personal insults, constant references to nationality and gratuitous bile towards Garde were OTT, not your criticism.

As for the board appointments, I'm sceptical about Bernstein in particular.  He's talking about proper planning and looking at where we've gone wrong.  We don't need that.  We all know where the club has gone wrong. 

We don't need proper planning? I'm interested - what kind of planning do we need? Ad-hoc, none?

So a new manager comes in.  He will report to Bernstein.  Who has to report to Hollis.  Who has to report to Lerner.  Sounds a bit of a dogs breakfast to me.

Too many chiefs.  Not enough Indians.

That's nice, but I'll repeat my actual question. We don't need proper planning? What kind of planning do we need - since you said we don't need proper planning?

It's just yet another LTA whinge.

It's a genuine question.  Whether people like it or not, Lerner still has the final say as it's his club and has holds the purse strings.  It's not as if Hollis can help himself to the silver while his backs turned.

Yes we do need planning, but that has to include the manager.  We tried to shoehorn Garde into the job because his preferred style of committees was one he admitted himself he was comfortable in.  Surely you start making plans AFTER the manager is appointed?  Not building some grand plan and hoping the new manager will happily accept it.

This business of having two separate boards doesn't sit well with me at all.

Two separate boards?

[peter w]

Not literally but there was talk that the football and the financial side of the board(s) had been separated. Which is in keeping with just about every other club.

[croatian]

He's done little of note other than inherit a fortune from his very successful father, and run two sporting institutions into the ground.

I do wonder if he's learnt his lesson yet?
That he might not, on the available evidence, be quite cut out for owning sporting institutions?
He has reduced us to not much more than a pile of rubble, and I gather that his other venture across the Atlantic didn't turn out as expected either.
He should consider buying himself a a small Caribbean island, forget about acquiring historic sports clubs, and just see out his days in luxurious obscurity.
Because, Mr Lerner, if this karma thing is real, you'd better keep your fucking head down.

[dave.woodhall]

He's done little of note other than inherit a fortune from his very successful father, and run two sporting institutions into the ground.

I do wonder if he's learnt his lesson yet?
That he might not, on the available evidence, be quite cut out for owning sporting institutions?
He has reduced us to not much more than a pile of rubble, and I gather that his other venture across the Atlantic didn't turn out as expected either.
He should consider buying himself a a small Caribbean island, forget about acquiring historic sports clubs, and just see out his days in luxurious obscurity.
Because, Mr Lerner, if this karma thing is real, you'd better keep your fucking head down.

Why? If you do believe in all that stuff then you also accept that he would be doing these things deliberately, in a spirit of malevolence. Nobody with any sense would say that.

[croatian]

He's done little of note other than inherit a fortune from his very successful father, and run two sporting institutions into the ground.

I do wonder if he's learnt his lesson yet?
That he might not, on the available evidence, be quite cut out for owning sporting institutions?
He has reduced us to not much more than a pile of rubble, and I gather that his other venture across the Atlantic didn't turn out as expected either.
He should consider buying himself a a small Caribbean island, forget about acquiring historic sports clubs, and just see out his days in luxurious obscurity.
Because, Mr Lerner, if this karma thing is real, you'd better keep your fucking head down.

Why?

No it's not a threat.

Karma (Sanskrit: कर्म; IPA: [ˈkərmə] ( listen); Pali: kamma) means action, work or deed; it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect).


OK?

[croatian]

He's done little of note other than inherit a fortune from his very successful father, and run two sporting institutions into the ground.

I do wonder if he's learnt his lesson yet?
That he might not, on the available evidence, be quite cut out for owning sporting institutions?
He has reduced us to not much more than a pile of rubble, and I gather that his other venture across the Atlantic didn't turn out as expected either.
He should consider buying himself a a small Caribbean island, forget about acquiring historic sports clubs, and just see out his days in luxurious obscurity.
Because, Mr Lerner, if this karma thing is real, you'd better keep your fucking head down.

Why? If you do believe in all that stuff then you also accept that he would be doing these things deliberately, in a spirit of malevolence. Nobody with any sense would say that.

I didn't say I believed "in all that stuff".
Nor did I say that it was "deliberate".
Or that it was done "in a spirit of malevolence".

Nobody with any sense would accuse me of that.

[cdward]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
For all his faults, I cant believe anyone thinks Randy wanted this to happen.

[VillaAlways]

Okore's agent is very unhappy with him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3522349/Aston-Villa-owner-Randy-Lerner-thrown-towel-insists-Jores-Okore-s-agent.html

[saunders_heroes]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
For all his faults, I cant believe anyone thinks Randy wanted this to happen.

Yeah, bless him. Ignorance is no excuse though, he's a fuckin disgrace.

[Diablo]

Okore's agent is very unhappy with him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3522349/Aston-Villa-owner-Randy-Lerner-thrown-towel-insists-Jores-Okore-s-agent.html

Why would his agent say this now? Surely best to keep quiet as he will know that the board has changed and that a new manager is being sought. It looks as though he is frantically trying to get him the hell out. How long has Okore got left on his contract?

[saunders_heroes]

Okore's agent is very unhappy with him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3522349/Aston-Villa-owner-Randy-Lerner-thrown-towel-insists-Jores-Okore-s-agent.html

Why would his agent say this now? Surely best to keep quiet as he will know that the board has changed and that a new manager is being sought. It looks as though he is frantically trying to get him the hell out. How long has Okore got left on his contract?

Looks like he wants out.

[dave.woodhall]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
For all his faults, I cant believe anyone thinks Randy wanted this to happen.

Yeah, bless him. Ignorance is no excuse though, he's a fuckin disgrace.

And the man who did it deliberately is beyond criticism.

[Villa in Denmark]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
For all his faults, I cant believe anyone thinks Randy wanted this to happen.

Yeah, bless him. Ignorance is no excuse though, he's a fuckin disgrace.

Are you so monochromatic and myopic about everything in life, or just about the Villa?