Randy Lerner

[Clampy]

I'd call the likes of Carson Yeung dodgy personally.

Exactly.

Lerner is clueless in the extreme, but by the usual usage of the word when used about football club owners, 'dodgy' is very unfair.

Blundering fool, yes, but up there with Yeung Shinawatra or Cellini? No.

He's not crooked. He is however incapable and that makes him dodgy in my book.

Incapable and dodgy mean two different things though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'd call the likes of Carson Yeung dodgy personally.

Exactly.

Lerner is clueless in the extreme, but by the usual usage of the word when used about football club owners, 'dodgy' is very unfair.

Blundering fool, yes, but up there with Yeung Shinawatra or Cellini? No.

He's not crooked. He is however incapable and that makes him dodgy in my book.

Incapable and dodgy mean two different things though.

"Dodgy" has a specific inference when used to describe football club owners, too.

And as for nobody implying him of being financially iffy - not you, Clampy, as said on previous page by someone else - there have been plenty of occasions when people have accused him of taking money out of the club, or being an asset stripper, despite the firm evidence that he's nothing of the sort.

It's one of the great "Oh, FFS, not that one again" arguments of H&V

He's a clueless disaster in sports ownership, as proven on both sides of the atlantic, and is currently sat thousands of miles away watching this club crumble on his watch. In my opinion, we will not improve until he goes and his coterie of buffoons fuck off too, but "dodgy"? No.

[IAmTheOneIanOlney]

We'd be better off arguing about the meaning of semantics.

Let's do that, then, I could do with the money.

[Locko]

dodg·y
   (dŏj′ē)
adj. dodg·i·er, dodg·i·est Chiefly British
1.  Evasive; shifty.

2.  Unsound, unstable, and unreliable.

3.  So risky as to require very deft handling.

He fits all the criteria for #2. His judgement is unsound at best. Whilst Lerner himself is not unstable the club most definitely is. His continued absence and lengthy silences strikes me as unreliable, by the definition above I'd say he's dodgy, no financial impropriety inferred

[aj2k77]

Aren't the accounts due to be released like right now? Surely we can't have posted another loss. Wages are down, income is up, transfer spending was down last season.

[Locko]

I'm expecting  another loss. We're running a surplus on player trading, but prize money will be static, then there is interest on loans from RAL and the management fee charged by RAL,  will Sherwood's and Lambert 's pay offs show in this years accounts?

[aj2k77]

Sherwoods wont but I think Lambores will.

[olaftab]

5 fucking years notice you have had Mr Lerner.... FIVE years .... for you to get it right and you have still fucked it up. How could you do that .....

[aj2k77]

and the management fee charged by RAL

What management?

[Locko]

5 fucking years notice you have had Mr Lerner.... FIVE years .... for you to get it right and you have still fucked it up. How could you do that .....

Getting it right would have been fucking fabulous, but frankly I'd have been delighted with an occasional display of adequacy..

[Locko]

and the management fee charged by RAL

What management?

I may be wrong on this but I believe we get charged £7m a year or thereabouts for management expertise.

[aj2k77]

and the management fee charged by RAL

What management?

I may be wrong on this but I believe we get charged £7m a year or thereabouts for management expertise.

Expertise, that makes me chuckle.

[ChicagoLion]

and the management fee charged by RAL

What management?

I may be wrong on this but I believe we get charged £7m a year or thereabouts for management expertise.

I think you will find he then capitalised management charges, he is £200+ down based on purchase price and subsequent loans/investments.

[Locko]

and the management fee charged by RAL

What management?

I may be wrong on this but I believe we get charged £7m a year or thereabouts for management expertise.

I think you will find he then capitalised management charges, he is £200+ down based on purchase price and subsequent loans/investments.

That's as maybe, but its mainly down to boneheaded decisions compounded by fuckwittery on a biblical a scale. I'd sympathise with him, but he happens to be destroying my football club with his monumental idiocy. Personally I wish he'd fuck off tomorrow and if it costs him even more to do so - good!

[Villa in Denmark]

I'm expecting  another loss. We're running a surplus on player trading, but prize money will be static, then there is interest on loans from RAL and the management fee charged by RAL,  will Sherwood's and Lambert 's pay offs show in this years accounts?

All of which have been waived apart from the first (maybe 2?) years.