Randy Lerner

[DaveD]

I see one of the major shareholders in Arsenal, who is worth over £1bn, has sold up amidst rumours he is looking to buy a premier league club.

Everton apparently. It's in The Telegraph today.

[aj2k77]

Lerners a dodgy owner. Not fit for purpose. Like using a noodle as a hammer.

[PeterWithesShin]

IMO Yeung is a dodgy owner. Lerner is just a crap owner.

[SoccerHQ]

Everton selling for 200m.

Would imagine that includes stadium redevlopment plus some debt.

Lerner can't be serious if he still wants 150m next season, it has to 100m at the most, probably less.

It's a bit like my putting the house up for sale at 1m, I want to sell but know deep down no-one in a million years is ever going to pay it.

[SoccerHQ]

He's not a dodgy Gaydamak, buying player on the never never, and leaving the club in administration and unable to pay players, which was the pointless comparison made in an attempt to justify the most idiotic post made on this site in some years.

Of course he isn't. Lerner is a rubbish owner, but I don't think he's anywhere near Gaydamak territory.

It's along the same lines a little though when you think of it....Pompey signing all those England internationals was mental considering they had a 19k ground with no hospitality boxes. Think their wage bill/turnover was over 100% which was mental for a club of their size.

However during that period we weren't far behind, it was over 80% wasn't it so at least to avoid a Portsmouth he pulled the plug just in time given O'Neill's transfer targets in 2010 (McGeady, Scott Parker and Robbie Keane).

Sadly that has forced our decline but I'd say Lerner is more of an impulsive owner and too trusting of people like MON.

[auntiesledd]

I think Lerner's worst shortcoming is that he does not know how to dodge.  He walks straight into situations that need to be avoided.  The curse of the naive and the know all.  He reminds me of the man I once saw walk up the Edgware Rd through the barriers into a foot of freshly poured concrete.  The look on his face as he looked down to his shins in concrete said " how did this happen?"

Thanks for that beautiful analogy Brian. Perfick.   

[aj2k77]

IMO Yeung is a dodgy owner. Lerner is just a crap owner.

Yeung is a criminally bent owner. How he past the ownership test one will never know.

[Dave]

IMO Yeung is a dodgy owner. Lerner is just a crap owner.

Yeung is a criminally bent owner. How he past the ownership test one will never know.

Well, presumably because all of his criminality was discovered after he'd become their owner.

[pbavfckuwait]

Just have a horrible feeling and obviously when the accounts are published, it may show me to be very wrong, but I think we are in more financial trouble than we think, does anyone know how Randy's other business interests are doing.
Would it have been possible for Lerner to re-transfer the money he loaned us and changed into something(what ever it was called, but basically he did not take the money out), into raising loans against Villa to then pay himself the dough he is owed and if so would we have heard anything about it.
Maybe someone in the accounts world like Risso may be able to answer.
In for me, in for me , they've all got it in for me, I know the above sounds like that, but there is something that is very very wrong at Villa Park at the moment, big time.

[mr underhill]

but that's nothing new - there's been something very wrong at VP for five years - just look back on the comings and goings of CEO's FD's, Managers. coaching staff etc. and the context surrounding some of them. The whole culture seems poisonous.

[brian green]

I would refer again to Ads' observation that we are in "de facto administration".  Stopping of car mileage for the youth team,  no biscuits for the corporate guests. I truly hope that things are not as bad as they are starting to appear.

[clash city rocker]

All these penny pinching ways of saving money while we squander hundreds of thousands every week on wages for fuckin conmen. .madness...total total madness.

[pbavfckuwait]

This is what I fear Brian, even the most stupid of business people have to realise what the core value of their business is, in AVFC's case it is the football club, all other streams of revenue are aligned to how the team is getting on, on the pitch and mr.underhill I am well aware of how long it has been going on and in fact it is a lot longer than 5 years, if you were looking to create a sustainable business model, which has never been in view since Randy walked in the door.
Holis brought in to cut and shave any saving he can make and as Ads said "de facto administrator, I have a horrible feeling we may be able to get rid of the first part of that name, de facto.

There must be serious problems of a non-football kind they are uncovering as if not, Holis allowing this to be portrayed in the open with Gardes remarks and some of the same from the players, Lescott's "not trying' remarks, he is fast proving himself not up to the task. God I hope I am wrong.

 

[Locko]

Just have a horrible feeling and obviously when the accounts are published, it may show me to be very wrong, but I think we are in more financial trouble than we think, does anyone know how Randy's other business interests are doing.
Would it have been possible for Lerner to re-transfer the money he loaned us and changed into something(what ever it was called, but basically he did not take the money out), into raising loans against Villa to then pay himself the dough he is owed and if so would we have heard anything about it.
Maybe someone in the accounts world like Risso may be able to answer.
In for me, in for me , they've all got it in for me, I know the above sounds like that, but there is something that is very very wrong at Villa Park at the moment, big time.

I'll pour some petrol on that particular bonfire, hasn't it been reported an interested party walked away last summer having looked at the books during due diligence. I think we've been mismanaged on a far grander scale than anyone imagines. I'll be happy to be proved wrong.

[pauliewalnuts]

Lerners a dodgy owner. Not fit for purpose. Like using a noodle as a hammer.

He's a poor owner and we are slowly being strangled by his ineptitude, but "dodgy" is utter fucking nonsense.

There's not a shred of evidence, and your reference as "not fit for purpose" doesn't even fit the word "dodgy".