Randy Lerner

[Tony Erdington]

Fair assessment,

I don't think Randy actually thinks anything of AVFC , its just another mistake he made, and lets just sweep it under the carpet, with the browns.

Randy will pick himself up and loose more of his families money, we just want the back of him.

[Dave]

...his notion Sherwood is worthless as a manager

Like I say, he knows his stuff.

[pauliewalnuts]

Is anyone else finding themselves "where-did-it-go-wrong-articled-out"? By which I mean that they've read so many articles about where it went wrong for us, they're just numb to it all and can't face any more of them?

[Rigadon]

Is anyone else finding themselves "where-did-it-go-wrong-articled-out"? By which I mean that they've read so many articles about where it went wrong for us, they're just numb to it all and can't face any more of them?

I am.   

Noose-porn.

[ciggiesnbeer]

...his notion Sherwood is worthless as a manager

Like I say, he knows his stuff.

hah! Oh it was definitely time for Sherwood to get axed and he was appalling from Southampton onwards and I was not happy when he was hired, mainly because it seemed such a lazy appointment.

All that said though it is really harsh to completely overlook Sherwood keeping us up. He genuinely did rally the players and lined us up so we played some very pleasing football for a brief window when we needed it.

Its possible to say "good riddance" to him and also recognize he did some good things before it all to soon went very badly.

[peter w]

Is anyone else finding themselves "where-did-it-go-wrong-articled-out"? By which I mean that they've read so many articles about where it went wrong for us, they're just numb to it all and can't face any more of them?

Not really. Maybe its because I tend to not read much Villa stuff anyway at the moment as its never anything positive. That saying I'm struck more by the lack of much media interest other than those from Villa fans or the local media. Or, more to the point, the few that do pass comment usually get basic things wrong.I.E. Lerner should have backed O'Neill., Sherwood hampered by the transfer committee etc etc

[Chris Harte]

Is anyone else finding themselves "where-did-it-go-wrong-articled-out"? By which I mean that they've read so many articles about where it went wrong for us, they're just numb to it all and can't face any more of them?

Not really. Maybe its because I tend to not read much Villa stuff anyway at the moment as its never anything positive. That saying I'm struck more by the lack of much media interest other than those from Villa fans or the local media. Or, more to the point, the few that do pass comment usually get basic things wrong.I.E. Lerner should have backed O'Neill., Sherwood hampered by the transfer committee etc etc

Me neither.

[tomd2103]

Is anyone else finding themselves "where-did-it-go-wrong-articled-out"? By which I mean that they've read so many articles about where it went wrong for us, they're just numb to it all and can't face any more of them?

I'm sick of the ill informed "McLeish, Lambert and Sherwood were hard done by" articles, but not the sort like the one being discussed.  The more of those that appear in the national media and set the story straight about the likes of O'Neill, McLeish, Lambert and Sherwood the better.   

[brian green]

I would incline to the mind set of post mortem fatigue were it not for the fact that so much has been swept under so many carpets at VP since the change of ownership.

If somebody tells me that, for example, that I am not allowed to know how the bullying culture (allegedly) happened the more determined I am to know why something so bad can only be (alleged).   There are dozens of other skeletons in cupboards that deserve to be opened before we can move on from these truly dark days.

[mr underhill]

talking of skeletons, I suppose if all else fails, we could turn VP/BMH into an Alton Towers type scream fest experience

[Locko]

Fair assessment,

I don't think Randy actually thinks anything of AVFC , its just another mistake he made, and lets just sweep it under the carpet, with the browns.

Randy will pick himself up and loose more of his families money, we just want the back of him.

It's been very obvious for a time. For all the twaddle he talks about being a custodian, his actions confirm he doesn't give a flying fuck. It's all about damage limitation for Randy now, getting back as much as he can before off loading pronto. Dark times ahead.

[levico]

It does make you wonder (there's probably a separate thread for this), just how far we can fall if Lerner's neglect continues ad infinitum.

Will we reach a natural level based on our size as a club or continue falling and falling, perhaps out of the league altogether?

Fascinating and tragic in equal measure.

[dave.woodhall]

It does make you wonder (there's probably a separate thread for this), just how far we can fall if Lerner's neglect continues ad infinitum.

Will we reach a natural level based on our size as a club or continue falling and falling, perhaps out of the league altogether?

Fascinating and tragic in equal measure.

Congratulations. Amongst all the apocalyptic nonsense of the past five years you're the first one to seriously suggest we might end up in the Conference.

[Steve R]

Some fairly  mushy narrative, particularly in the first few paragraphs, but the view on actual events are the best I have seen aired in the press.

To me, Lerner's failing was his his private nature. In 2006 he knew next to nothing about football, in ten years he seems to have learned little other that the Premier League is not a licence to print money and that there are a lot of untrustworthy people about.

Had he been a more gregarious person, 10 years of networking at the top end of the game would have seen him well prepared to take a self financing club stride forward with the help of a suitably capable dogsbody.

[cheltenhamlion]

Good argument that Steve.