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Offline spangley1812

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2835 on: February 21, 2016, 01:51:42 PM »
Gestede will score 20 in the championship

Only with someone crossing the ball for him

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2836 on: February 21, 2016, 01:55:48 PM »
Amavi will be back. What a cross that bloke has on him.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2837 on: February 21, 2016, 02:02:30 PM »
Amavi will be back. What a cross that bloke has on him.

I think Amavi will tear that division up. Throw in Traore, a fresh start for Grealish. Players will leave, but I don't think it will be a mass exodus at all. What some of these players need is a fresh start away from this season. The majority of the teams in the Championship are bollocks. There's going to th sides who come down with us plus 3 or 4 others that will cause any significant challenge. We desperately need two good forwards coming in with mobility and you'll fine our midfield suddenly looking better, wingers finding targets and less pressure on the defence. Add in a better keeper it won't look so bad at that level. Then all of a sudden we will look like Hull did yesterday at Arsenal. Not much different to side that went down but so much more confidence and belief. The manager as much as the players needs the season to end, the purge to begin and then get a clean slate moving forward.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2838 on: February 21, 2016, 02:03:03 PM »
In my 60+ years of working for large and small organisations, when consultants are brought in, they have to justify their large fees by recommending change, whether necessary or not.

There can be no doubt Aston Villa need change in the management of the club and those responsible for the situation that has developed over the last five years need to be held to account.

Will the consultants however, be football industry savvy, or be the sort our new board members have used in their past business lives, because if so, I can't be confident things will be improved on the football front.

Football clubs thrive on the back of pitch performance and we haven't had a consistent season for a long time. Get the squad right with the right manager, then start worrying about the business aspects of the club.

I almost agree with all of that Boz.

I think (and hope) that the purpose is to sort out how they actually organise the footballing side of things to give a manager the best chance (other than just throw unsustainable amounts of cash at it) and help get the right people in the right places.

The business side needs to be built simultaneously, almost out of necessity these days, to maximise every last pound of revenue that we can muster.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2839 on: February 21, 2016, 02:05:47 PM »
Spot on. In theory there is nothing wrong with Sporting directors and Head of player recruitment and a CEO but when they are useless that's a problem.

I know the player recruitment was quite popular this summer on here but to me it was terrible. The midfielders signed at a cost of over £15m look bit part players, they lack strength or speed apart from Traore who seems the rawest of raw materials. For the money we paid and the needs we had the players signed are a poor selection. They could be decent soldiers but we needed a couple of generals too. We must have the slowest, weakest team in the division.

A good window. Now we need to get them to gel asap. If one of Ayew or Gestede adapts then we will surprise people.

Sorry I never spent the 6 months prior to summer scouting the players we we're buying.

Don't worry, lots of posters have got stuff wrong on here over the last 6 seasons, and I'm not gonna deny I thought Gestede could have been a cult hero at Villa. What a disaster that was.

I'd never seen Gestede play, never even heard of Amavi, Traore, Gueye, Veretout,Ayew, Crespo etc. Mine was more blind optimism that surely they would have been thoroughly scouted and would fit in to a role in the team we desperately needed and would work well in a plan we had.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2840 on: February 21, 2016, 02:07:37 PM »
Gestede will score 20 in the championship

I don't think Gestede would score 20 on a pinball machine. Unless we shape the whole team around him.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2841 on: February 21, 2016, 02:10:45 PM »
Gestede will score 20 in the championship

I don't think Gestede would score 20 on a pinball machine. Unless we shape the whole team around him.

He scored 20 in it last season.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2842 on: February 21, 2016, 02:11:19 PM »
I think if Sherwood was any kind of manager and actually tried to get the players fit and integrate the new lads properly we'd have had a much more sustained and consistent start to the season. He fucked things up by being a prick about things especially when he couldn't find a way to stop us losing games. I'm not saying he was entirely wrong in that we probably should have got some solid players in with PL experience to balance the recruitment out. But he is one of the main reasons a lot of these players haven't worked out and we are only seeing glimpses of their ability now. They are just too battered mentally to provide any real value this season.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2843 on: February 21, 2016, 02:13:04 PM »
Gestede will score 20 in the championship

I don't think Gestede would score 20 on a pinball machine. Unless we shape the whole team around him.

He scored 20 in it last season.

 I'm especially looking forward to battering 3 past his old club and making a ****** out of TSM2.

Offline Boz

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2844 on: February 21, 2016, 02:31:52 PM »
Amavi will be back. What a cross that bloke has on him.

I think Amavi will tear that division up. Throw in Traore, a fresh start for Grealish. Players will leave, but I don't think it will be a mass exodus at all. What some of these players need is a fresh start away from this season. The majority of the teams in the Championship are bollocks. There's going to th sides who come down with us plus 3 or 4 others that will cause any significant challenge. We desperately need two good forwards coming in with mobility and you'll fine our midfield suddenly looking better, wingers finding targets and less pressure on the defence. Add in a better keeper it won't look so bad at that level. Then all of a sudden we will look like Hull did yesterday at Arsenal. Not much different to side that went down but so much more confidence and belief. The manager as much as the players needs the season to end, the purge to begin and then get a clean slate moving forward.

I applaud the optimism, but we will probably need more physicality than we currently have, especially in midfield and defence. Some of our lightweight players like Gil will be subject to a shellacking in the Championship.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2845 on: February 21, 2016, 02:36:10 PM »
Amavi will be back. What a cross that bloke has on him.

I think Amavi will tear that division up. Throw in Traore, a fresh start for Grealish. Players will leave, but I don't think it will be a mass exodus at all. What some of these players need is a fresh start away from this season. The majority of the teams in the Championship are bollocks. There's going to th sides who come down with us plus 3 or 4 others that will cause any significant challenge. We desperately need two good forwards coming in with mobility and you'll fine our midfield suddenly looking better, wingers finding targets and less pressure on the defence. Add in a better keeper it won't look so bad at that level. Then all of a sudden we will look like Hull did yesterday at Arsenal. Not much different to side that went down but so much more confidence and belief. The manager as much as the players needs the season to end, the purge to begin and then get a clean slate moving forward.

I applaud the optimism, but we will probably need more physicality than we currently have, especially in midfield and defence. Some of our lightweight players like Gil will be subject to a shellacking in the Championship.


Yes it goes without saying that this group will require help, but in the end quality will win out. It's a bit of myth that the Championship is full of bullies or players that will push us around. What we will need is depth for the demands of longer and physically more demanding schedule.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2846 on: February 21, 2016, 03:36:39 PM »
The hiring of consultants can also be a pre cursor to firing senior people, this is particularly relevant when the guy at the top is new.
It's like the conclusion and reccomendations are allready understood, we now need the report to justify the decision.
Hopefully this will mean the end of Fox and the bloke with the X Box.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2847 on: February 21, 2016, 03:56:00 PM »
I assume the guy with the X-box is Paddy Reilly, the guy who turned up Veretout, Ayew, Amavi and Gueye? The better signings from the summer.
Where consensus seems to have been that Richards, Lescott and Gestede were Sherwood's own picks?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2848 on: February 21, 2016, 04:02:18 PM »
I assume the guy with the X-box is Paddy Reilly, the guy who turned up Veretout, Ayew, Amavi and Gueye? The better signings from the summer.
Where consensus seems to have been that Richards, Lescott and Gestede were Sherwood's own picks?

Throw in Traore also who will end up being a significant player

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2849 on: February 21, 2016, 05:04:01 PM »
Gestede will score 20 in the championship

I don't think Gestede would score 20 on a pinball machine. Unless we shape the whole team around him.

He scored 20 in it last season.

One season PWS.  Daryl Murphy scored that many as well last season.

 


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