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Offline tomd2103

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2610 on: February 18, 2016, 09:14:53 AM »
Another contributory factor is we never maximised earnings potential from commercial deals at the right time. This led to us having wages accounting for something like 70% of income. It wasn't that we were paying over the odds we were probably paying the going rate in wages compared to say a Spurs or Everton, but looking back we didn't have the extra income from commercial streams that other clubs did. Fox and Hollis have both said as much, pointing the finger at Faulkner.
When you think back at some, or lack of deals we were definitely lightweight in that department. Nike making us wait until November for new shirts, the Acorns deal while great PR was not bringing in any money, its crazy to think of a PL club without a shirt sponsor.
Its obvious we have been left behind commercially by a lot of PL clubs, and ironically for Randy just when the money will be rolling in for being in the PL , we will be left behind again.

Wasn't it more like 90%?  I maybe wrong, but I think Lerner probably expected Champions League football at the time and the extra income that would have come with it.  As for paying over the odds - we were paying ridiculous amounts back then.  Didn't Liverpool come in for Luke Young, only for him to turn them down because they were offering significantly less than he was getting at Villa?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2611 on: February 18, 2016, 09:16:21 AM »
Can we just stop talking about him now! Fucking boring! Sick of seeing and hearing of him.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2612 on: February 18, 2016, 09:16:56 AM »
Lerner out T-Shirts anyone ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTON-VILLA-PROUD-HISTORY-NO-FUTURE-LERNER-OUT-PROTEST-T-SHIRT-MEN-WOMEN-

Similar stickers are also available. I've seen the stickers on London tube trains, various vehicles and lamp posts too.

Hurry up Mr Lerner, sell the Club.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aston-Villa-Shirts-Memorabilia-Collection-/322010443373?hash=item4af9516e6d

That's quite a collection!

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2613 on: February 18, 2016, 11:27:03 AM »
Can we just stop talking about him now! Fucking boring! Sick of seeing and hearing of him.
Agreed. It's been done to death. Although someone doing the man himself to death is not a disagreeable thought*

* this is not at all serious, before anyone accuses me of being a sick bastard.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 11:29:00 AM by Locko »

Offline garyfouroaks

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2614 on: February 18, 2016, 12:44:06 PM »
Some of you may be aware of Swiss Ramble, who is about the best commentator on football finance around. Although almost a year old, the enclosed link is as detailed and balanced an assessment of our woes as I have seen:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aston%20Villa

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2615 on: February 18, 2016, 12:52:19 PM »
Can we just stop talking about him now! Fucking boring! Sick of seeing and hearing of him.

Yes, let's stick our fingers in our ears, hide under the table and pretend he doesn't exist. Works for Randy.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2616 on: February 18, 2016, 01:23:23 PM »
Some of you may be aware of Swiss Ramble, who is about the best commentator on football finance around. Although almost a year old, the enclosed link is as detailed and balanced an assessment of our woes as I have seen:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aston%20Villa

Some of you may be aware of Swiss Ramble, who is about the best commentator on football finance around. Although almost a year old, the enclosed link is as detailed and balanced an assessment of our woes as I have seen:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aston%20Villa


Good question. Has anybody on this site heard of the Swiss Ramble? Not sure it's ever come up.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2617 on: February 18, 2016, 01:25:51 PM »
Some of you may be aware of Swiss Ramble, who is about the best commentator on football finance around. Although almost a year old, the enclosed link is as detailed and balanced an assessment of our woes as I have seen:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aston%20Villa

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Robin Russell: “By controlling costs we have been able to take advantage of the new Premier League broadcasting deal to bring the club closer to self-sufficiency.”
Good luck with that in the Championship. Unless the squad have relegation clauses that reduce their wages by at least 60%.

Offline garyfouroaks

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2618 on: February 18, 2016, 01:29:05 PM »
Good question. Has anybody on this site heard of the Swiss Ramble? Not sure it's ever come up.
I've quoted the site before.

For those not interested in football facts and figures, it's a non starter. But I am, and it provides some useful context to where we are.

In short, Randy has not raided the petty cash, he has put in a shed load of money, he has seen a poor return through bad decision making, and the MON era was probably our last shot at th big time with Spurs and West Ham moving grounds.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2619 on: February 18, 2016, 01:32:16 PM »
Good question. Has anybody on this site heard of the Swiss Ramble? Not sure it's ever come up.
I've quoted the site before.

For those not interested in football facts and figures, it's a non starter. But I am, and it provides some useful context to where we are.

In short, Randy has not raided the petty cash, he has put in a shed load of money, he has seen a poor return through bad decision making, and the MON era was probably our last shot at th big time with Spurs and West Ham moving grounds.

We could have planning permission in tomorrow and with a decent enough donation to the BCC Planning Officer, have a  55,000 stadium within 9/12 months, without changing address.

The scope is there for this club, it lacks the leadership and ambition from the top, right through to the first XI and the academy though.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2620 on: February 18, 2016, 01:39:30 PM »
Good question. Has anybody on this site heard of the Swiss Ramble? Not sure it's ever come up.
I've quoted the site before.

For those not interested in football facts and figures, it's a non starter. But I am, and it provides some useful context to where we are.

In short, Randy has not raided the petty cash, he has put in a shed load of money, he has seen a poor return through bad decision making, and the MON era was probably our last shot at th big time with Spurs and West Ham moving grounds.

Sorry, wasn't aimed at you. There was a time on here when people were losing the love for MON that the veracity or otherwise of that site was debated into the ground, dug back up again and then hit in the face with a shovel.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2621 on: February 18, 2016, 02:37:32 PM »
Can we just stop talking about him now! Fucking boring! Sick of seeing and hearing of him.

Yes, let's stick our fingers in our ears, hide under the table and pretend he doesn't exist. Works for Randy.

Who?

Offline Ormy Droid

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2622 on: February 18, 2016, 03:12:47 PM »
Some of you may be aware of Swiss Ramble, who is about the best commentator on football finance around. Although almost a year old, the enclosed link is as detailed and balanced an assessment of our woes as I have seen:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aston%20Villa

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Robin Russell: “By controlling costs we have been able to take advantage of the new Premier League broadcasting deal to bring the club closer to self-sufficiency.”
Good luck with that in the Championship. Unless the squad have relegation clauses that reduce their wages by at least 60%.

Makes for depressing reading. Basically if we don't bounce straight back up next season we could be facing years of struggle both on and off the pitch...So no change there then  :(
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 03:15:47 PM by Ormy Droid »

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2623 on: February 18, 2016, 07:14:01 PM »
Some of you may be aware of Swiss Ramble, who is about the best commentator on football finance around. Although almost a year old, the enclosed link is as detailed and balanced an assessment of our woes as I have seen:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aston%20Villa

Some of you may be aware of Swiss Ramble, who is about the best commentator on football finance around. Although almost a year old, the enclosed link is as detailed and balanced an assessment of our woes as I have seen:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aston%20Villa


Good question. Has anybody on this site heard of the Swiss Ramble?
Is he the same as Swiss Tony??

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2624 on: February 18, 2016, 07:24:28 PM »
Or rambling syd rumpo:


 


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