Randy Lerner

[Locko]

This is how it's done. Randy take heed you clueless dolt

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/206821-fsg-s-message-to-liverpool-supporters

We quite obviously got the wrong American/Americans...

For all he's got wrong in the past five years he would never try to pull a stroke like that so he'd never have to put it right.

I can list what his got right pretty much on the fingers of one hand. FSG seem to have a far better handle on custodianship than Randy, they continue to invest whilst not distancing themselves/hiding on the other side of the Atlantic, whilst serving up the same gently reheated shit sandwich every season for half a decade. They seem to have a genuine respect for the institution in their care. Randy effects an air of not giving a fuck, our being bored at best. Weren't Hicks and Gillette interested in villa? Carson Yeung would have been a better bet than dear old Randy. Lerner is a vandal destroying villa through sheer incompetence...

Carson Yeung would have been better than Randy? We're you sligtly tipsy when you wrote that?

Or struggling in a very tight, white jacket

If we go down, the Muppets running the show will employ austerity max, we've only had austerity lite to now. The idiots will employ more of the same thinking that got us into this mess in the first place, to try and fix it. So we're looking at possibly substantial debt and a long spell in the championship, Carson in his defence (never thought I'd utter that), achieved that and won a trophy with them. He's one up on the idiot all ready...

[Dan England]

If we go down, the Muppets running the show will employ austerity max, we've only had austerity lite to now. The idiots will employ more of the same thinking that got us into this mess in the first place, to try and fix it. So we're looking at possibly substantial debt and a long spell in the championship, Carson in his defence (never thought I'd utter that), achieved that and won a trophy with them. He's one up on the idiot all ready...

So we employ austerity max and still end up substantially in debt, are you saying we should spend shed loads of cash and end up in even more debt? And as bad as Lerner ever has been to compare him to Yeung is ridiculous.

The answer to getting back up is to have a good manager, a strong core of the team and squad depth. Let's see how and what signings are made in the summer before whining about things before they happen.

[Drummond]

Lerner was heralded as being one of the good  Americans when he came and now he's one of the bad ones? Because the others tried to extort their fans and then changed their minds.

Get a grip.

[Mister E]

I have absolutely no problem with Mr Lerner's concept of stewardship ... it's his execution of that which has hobbled us.
The jury on FSG is massively out at the moment.
And as for comparisions with Yeung, pleeeeeeease!!

[Locko]

If we go down, the Muppets running the show will employ austerity max, we've only had austerity lite to now. The idiots will employ more of the same thinking that got us into this mess in the first place, to try and fix it. So we're looking at possibly substantial debt and a long spell in the championship, Carson in his defence (never thought I'd utter that), achieved that and won a trophy with them. He's one up on the idiot all ready...

So we employ austerity max and still end up substantially in debt, are you saying we should spend shed loads of cash and end up in even more debt? And as bad as Lerner ever has been to compare him to Yeung is ridiculous.

The answer to getting back up is to have a good manager, a strong core of the team and squad depth. Let's see how and what signings are made in the summer before whining about things before they happen.

Aren't we a £100m in the hole to RAL already?
As for comparing Lerner to Yeung, that was tongue in cheek, perhaps I should have used a smilie. Lerner though has done as disastrous a job as the hairdresser. Unless we miraculously escape the drop this season we won't bounce straight back. I've no faith in anyone at the club other than Garde to arrest the slide

[Percy McCarthy]

Wimps the lot of you.  You have never experienced pain unless you have trodden barefoot on a three pin plug lying on its back, prongs upwards.

I rolled out of the top bunk and landed on one with my ribs when I was about five.

[Chico Hamilton III]

The fact that Liverpool are owned by a bunch of lunatics doesn't make Lerner any less of a dick. To be honest, I'd rather be8th or 9th in the table, have a couple of hundred million quid's worth of players and only have to moan about my ticket price ( scandalous as that may be).

[Clampy]

If we go down, the Muppets running the show will employ austerity max, we've only had austerity lite to now. The idiots will employ more of the same thinking that got us into this mess in the first place, to try and fix it. So we're looking at possibly substantial debt and a long spell in the championship, Carson in his defence (never thought I'd utter that), achieved that and won a trophy with them. He's one up on the idiot all ready...

So we employ austerity max and still end up substantially in debt, are you saying we should spend shed loads of cash and end up in even more debt? And as bad as Lerner ever has been to compare him to Yeung is ridiculous.

The answer to getting back up is to have a good manager, a strong core of the team and squad depth. Let's see how and what signings are made in the summer before whining about things before they happen.

Aren't we a £100m in the hole to RAL already?
As for comparing Lerner to Yeung, that was tongue in cheek, perhaps I should have used a smilie. Lerner though has done as disastrous a job as the hairdresser. Unless we miraculously escape the drop this season we won't bounce straight back. I've no faith in anyone at the club other than Garde to arrest the slide

A bit of back peddling on the Yeung comparison I see, bearing in mind you mentioned it twice. It was a silly thing to put in all honesty. Shame that you couldn't admit it.

[ChicagoLion]

I wonder if they will put that on his epitaph
Randy Lerner
Not quite as bad as Yeung Oyston or Venkys.

[old man villa fan]

The fact that Liverpool are owned by a bunch of lunatics doesn't make Lerner any less of a dick. To be honest, I'd rather be8th or 9th in the table, have a couple of hundred million quid's worth of players and only have to moan about my ticket price ( scandalous as that may be).

Not absolutely confident of this without checking but I wouldn't mind betting that Liverpool's slide has mirrored ours.

If you was to compare Liverpool's standing and squad value with Villa's when Lerner took over and do the same now. Then add in money spent and I think you will not see much difference.

Our problem was that we started at a low base and have returned to it (less a bit) with no room to manoeuvre.

[Locko]

Has Yeung been worse for them than  Lerner has for us? I'm sure Ellis has mentioned something about Yeung being interested at the time he sold to Lerner. Lerner has been so lacking by any reasonable measure that I'd ask, would Yeung have fucked up as badly? Christ the noses won a pot with him as owner. Under Lerner we've achieved sweet FA, we've got a probable relegation and quite possibly years of stagnation to look forward to now. Whilst I'd never have wanted Yeung in a million years, I'd have taken Hicks and Gillette in a heartbeat over the pillock we ended to with. Maybe Doug is being revisionist, but I'm sure in the past he's mentioned interest from Yeung and Hicks and Gillette at the time of the sale, perhaps he's trying to paint himself in a better light, given he sold the club to a total dud... Straying off topic there from one useless owner to another...

[Chris Harte]

Has anyone seen this:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6923524/Aston-Villa-woes-How-Randy-Lerners-reign-has-ruined-great-club.html

Seems to be a good history of the Lerner years to date. Certainly better than certain articles that say, to paraphrase, its Garde and all them Johnny foreigners who need to be kick out of the club.

[Clampy]

Has Yeung been worse for them than  Lerner has for us?

Well, bearing in mind one of them went to prison, then yes.

[b23]

This is how it's done. Randy take heed you clueless dolt

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/206821-fsg-s-message-to-liverpool-supporters

We quite obviously got the wrong American/Americans...

No.

THIS is how it's done Randy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-31299325

I can see the headlines now.
Lerner makes Locko homeless and destitute.
Unfortunately, i will not be Crowd Funding you.

[not3bad]

Has anyone seen this:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6923524/Aston-Villa-woes-How-Randy-Lerners-reign-has-ruined-great-club.html

Seems to be a good history of the Lerner years to date. Certainly better than certain articles that say, to paraphrase, its Garde and all them Johnny foreigners who need to be kick out of the club.

I don't like the sound of this:

"Yet there was no buyer at the £200m asking price — or even at lower valuations Lerner was forced to concede. Various consortia began due diligence, only to decide not to proceed. The precise nature of what they saw in the books remains unclear."