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Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2145 on: January 18, 2016, 08:26:07 AM »
Villa have become an absolute shambles. He's hired and fired managers. Appointed the wrong people in the wrong roles.
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That sums it up - had we got this right then the talk of 'underspending' relative to unsustainable Top 3 'overspending'

'Lerner would have to spend all of this and more on new talent if he wanted to get the club back to where it belongs.'

No idea where this supposition comes from - does he mean back in Premiership or back in the Top 8.

'When Lerner wasn't satisfied with a sixth place finish in 2011, but refused to given Martin O'Neill major investment, the Northern Irishman promptly quit.'

Utterly laughable - he spent Top 3 money and finished no better than 6th. Same as DOL managed.

''It will be his birthday next month - and you'll be able to count the number of cards he gets from fans on one finger.'

Oh he'll be so gutted.

Largely shite piece of 'analysis' befitting of the shite rag in which it was promulgated.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2016, 08:27:48 AM by rob_bridge »

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2146 on: January 18, 2016, 08:37:21 AM »
"he doesn't deserve the privilege of controlling Villa" - Blimey a journalist who gets "it"

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2147 on: January 18, 2016, 09:02:28 AM »
It lost me when it said we'd have to spend £100 million to get out the Championship. Unless he means the top six?

It's good that our plight is being discussed in the mainstream media, but the level of understanding and analysis is superficial.

I gave up at nobody knowing his number - because billionaires are always that open. As with most of these stories, they've finally woken up to our position but rather than spend a bit of time analysing what's actually gone wrong they go in for hyperbole and easy targets.

Offline brian green

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2148 on: January 18, 2016, 09:06:17 AM »
As VID puts it on another thread, it is the required narrative.  Like mashing up a baby's food.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2150 on: January 18, 2016, 09:12:48 AM »
It lost me when it said we'd have to spend £100 million to get out the Championship. Unless he means the top six?

It's good that our plight is being discussed in the mainstream media, but the level of understanding and analysis is superficial.

I gave up at nobody knowing his number - because billionaires are always that open. As with most of these stories, they've finally woken up to our position but rather than spend a bit of time analysing what's actually gone wrong they go in for hyperbole and easy targets.

Lerner is an easy target simply because he is the ONLY target.

The mess we are in is his fault and his fault alone

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2151 on: January 18, 2016, 09:25:36 AM »
As owners go Randy Lerner has had a lot of faults. Nobody disputes that.

But on a measurement of competence I would put at least five others who have been worse at doing what they are paid to do, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Faulkner and Fox.

I do not challenge the view that Lerner's was the final say, but I do challenge very strongly that everything is his fault.

Offline MarkM

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2152 on: January 18, 2016, 09:39:48 AM »
As owners go Randy Lerner has had a lot of faults. Nobody disputes that.

But on a measurement of competence I would put at least five others who have been worse at doing what they are paid to do, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Faulkner and Fox.

I do not challenge the view that Lerner's was the final say, but I do challenge very strongly that everything is his fault.

As the person who signs the cheques, agrees on the appointments and owns the club, the buck stops with him.

He may not have made the day to day decisions that helped to lead us to this point but he employed the people that did.

Lerner appeared to have become so detached that he failed to see what was going wrong, again that is down to him.

A business, staff etc.. is a reflection of the owner, especially businesses where a single individual owns and operates it. When RL was involved and setting the pace 'bright future etc..' then the club was galvanized behind a vision and a plan. When he pulled back the club began to drift. That is completely the fault of RL

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2153 on: January 18, 2016, 09:41:39 AM »
I actually find it all a bit patronising.

Years of "unrealistic expectations", the bollocks about McLeish getting a hard time from day one because of where he came from, Lambert being a miracle worker, and then, not three months ago, how dare we sack Sherwood for being less use than Mike Ashley's "Big Book Of Business Ethics" to suddenly all this concern.

Or a condescending pat on the head on our way out with a "sorry to see you go".

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2154 on: January 18, 2016, 09:50:15 AM »
Randy was like a child who got locked in the local sweet shop, ate all he could and thought he was the dogs gonads, then when he realized he had ate to much and started projectile vomiting everywhere wanted to blame everyone but himself, ably assisted by putting incompetents in charge of his guts recovery.

Offline brian green

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2155 on: January 18, 2016, 09:54:33 AM »
I must go to work.

For me targeting Lerner exclusively can be compared to a boss whose office building is on fire.  His secretary rushes in to tell him they are ablaze.  He tells her to throw the sprinkler switch.  Sprinklers not working. Now, is that the fault of the maintenance engineer sitting in his shed reading girlie magazines or the boss off at Royal Ascot?  My personal answer to that question is. Both.

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2156 on: January 18, 2016, 09:56:32 AM »
But Lerner is still here.*


*By here, I mean floating in space, somewhere near Saturn.

Offline ROBBO

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2157 on: January 18, 2016, 11:40:13 AM »
may have better luck selling Saturn than he does the Villa.

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2158 on: January 18, 2016, 11:45:01 AM »
I must go to work.

For me targeting Lerner exclusively can be compared to a boss whose office building is on fire.  His secretary rushes in to tell him they are ablaze.  He tells her to throw the sprinkler switch.  Sprinklers not working. Now, is that the fault of the maintenance engineer sitting in his shed reading girlie magazines or the boss off at Royal Ascot?  My personal answer to that question is. Both.

That sounds very much like the man at the top trying to pass the buck.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2159 on: January 18, 2016, 12:00:55 PM »
I must go to work.

For me targeting Lerner exclusively can be compared to a boss whose office building is on fire.  His secretary rushes in to tell him they are ablaze.  He tells her to throw the sprinkler switch.  Sprinklers not working. Now, is that the fault of the maintenance engineer sitting in his shed reading girlie magazines or the boss off at Royal Ascot?  My personal answer to that question is. Both.

If the boss needed telling that the offices were on fire, it sounds like he hasn't bothered fitting smoke alarms? In which case it's probably not a bad analogy.

 


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