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Offline Risso

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1995 on: January 10, 2016, 10:31:35 AM »
Of course he doesn't have any malicious intent, as I've yet to meet a very rich man who actually enjoys losing money.  What he is, and I have met quite a few of these, is somebody who has inherited his dad's wealth, but not the business sense to go with it.  Dangerous combination, stupidity and family money.

Offline dave shelley

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1996 on: January 10, 2016, 10:57:02 AM »
Mods please indulge me for putting this in here but I didn't want to start another thread.  Today is the thirty-eighth anniversary of my fathers death.  I was thinking about him as I walked into town last night and I was wondering just what he would have made of the Villa's current situation.

 I was immediately transported back to the dark days of the mid-sixties and, remembered his unshakeable belief in the fact that Aston Villa was as big a football club as it was possible to be.  He believed that whatever bad hand the footballing gods dealt us we would overcome it purely because we were the Villa.

I grew up listening to stories of matches involving the likes of Billy Walker, Eric Houghton, George Cummings et al.  His pride in those players always evident.  I was delighted when I managed to get him a seat for the 1975 League Cup Final, he died a happy man having seen his club win at Wembley.

We as a collective, owner, management, players and supporters need to tap-in to that believe and pride because we will rise again, my old man said so.  He was fifty-eight when he died.

Apologies for being maudlin.


Online kippaxvilla2

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1997 on: January 10, 2016, 11:18:05 AM »
Serious question but what does Lerner do on a daily basis?  What takes so much of his time that he is never seen here anymore?  Is he really that busy?  He's got a business over here that is in serious trouble and yet isn't visible at all. 

I get that he has employed people to run it for him but that isn't working. I just wondered what is so demanding that he can't be visible even once a month to try and sort this mess out.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2016, 11:20:46 AM by kippaxvilla2 »

Offline Walmley_Villa

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1998 on: January 10, 2016, 11:21:32 AM »
Lerner is a romantic which for me explains some of his decisions. The McLeish appointment on the back of the letter from SAF for example. He likes to hear the right things and is obviously quite easy to win over at an interview. The problem is he is happy enough to show his face at something like the FA Cup final but hides when the going gets tough. We need a dynamic owner that instills pride and passion in everyone throughout the club. A disinterested owner is reflected throughout the malaise at the club.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2016, 11:29:34 AM by Walmley_Villa »

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1999 on: January 10, 2016, 11:23:34 AM »
Serious question but what does Lerner do on a daily basis?  What takes so much of his time that he is never seen here anymore?  Is he really that busy?  He's got a business over here that is in serious trouble and yet isn't visible at all. 

I get that he has employed people to run it for him but that isn't working. I just wondered what is so demanding that he can't be visible even once a month to try and sort this mess out.
You are assuming he would know what to do if he was around, this is patently not the case. So what is the point ?

Offline ez

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2000 on: January 10, 2016, 11:25:46 AM »
Obviously he's hiding. He knows he's done a lot of wrong and can't face anyone to do with the club.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2001 on: January 10, 2016, 11:28:50 AM »
Serious question but what does Lerner do on a daily basis?  What takes so much of his time that he is never seen here anymore?  Is he really that busy?  He's got a business over here that is in serious trouble and yet isn't visible at all. 

I get that he has employed people to run it for him but that isn't working. I just wondered what is so demanding that he can't be visible even once a month to try and sort this mess out.
You are assuming he would know what to do if he was around, this is patently not the case. So what is the point ?


It's a question of leadership isn't it.  When the boss is away there is a propensity to 'doss' around I think.  If he shows up at least with the intent shown there might be a change in attitude around the place.

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2002 on: January 10, 2016, 11:32:10 AM »
Obviously he's hiding. He knows he's done a lot of wrong and can't face anyone to do with the club.

It's as simple as this, human nature.

 I suspect if we were top of the league he'd be living in a penthouse at the Mailbox.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2003 on: January 10, 2016, 11:37:10 AM »
Serious question but what does Lerner do on a daily basis?  What takes so much of his time that he is never seen here anymore?  Is he really that busy?  He's got a business over here that is in serious trouble and yet isn't visible at all. 

I get that he has employed people to run it for him but that isn't working. I just wondered what is so demanding that he can't be visible even once a month to try and sort this mess out.
You are assuming he would know what to do if he was around, this is patently not the case. So what is the point ?


It's a question of leadership isn't it.  When the boss is away there is a propensity to 'doss' around I think.  If he shows up at least with the intent shown there might be a change in attitude around the place.
Yes I know what you mean, under any normal circumstances that might be the case. I doubt if any one has any respect for him though.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2004 on: January 10, 2016, 11:40:25 AM »
Obviously he's hiding. He knows he's done a lot of wrong and can't face anyone to do with the club.

It's as simple as this, human nature.

 I suspect if we were top of the league he'd be living in a penthouse at the Mailbox.

I don't think he would to be honest though.

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2005 on: January 10, 2016, 11:53:37 AM »
Obviously he's hiding. He knows he's done a lot of wrong and can't face anyone to do with the club.

It's as simple as this, human nature.

 I suspect if we were top of the league he'd be living in a penthouse at the Mailbox.

I don't think he would to be honest though.

Well he seemed to find the ground on plenty of occasions when we were in the top 4, being feted for giving out scarves or appearing at Wembley.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2006 on: January 10, 2016, 12:08:09 PM »
Obviously he's hiding. He knows he's done a lot of wrong and can't face anyone to do with the club.

It's as simple as this, human nature.

 I suspect if we were top of the league he'd be living in a penthouse at the Mailbox.

I don't think he would to be honest though.

Well he seemed to find the ground on plenty of occasions when we were in the top 4, being feted for giving out scarves or appearing at Wembley.

But that's a little different to having an apartment in the middle of Birmingham City Centre.

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2007 on: January 10, 2016, 12:14:25 PM »
Obviously he's hiding. He knows he's done a lot of wrong and can't face anyone to do with the club.

It's as simple as this, human nature.

 I suspect if we were top of the league he'd be living in a penthouse at the Mailbox.

I don't think he would to be honest though.

Well he seemed to find the ground on plenty of occasions when we were in the top 4, being feted for giving out scarves or appearing at Wembley.

But that's a little different to having an apartment in the middle of Birmingham City Centre.

Ok, your right, he'd have an old manor house near Stratford-upon-Avon  ;)

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2008 on: January 10, 2016, 12:21:58 PM »
The one thing his stupidity will cause and we get all upset because it is our football club, but with relegation will come cuts and those cuts will be on hardworking people within the club, some Villa fans some not, but all hardworking individuals, lets think of them for a moment and how Randy's actions will have a lasting effect on them.

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #2009 on: January 10, 2016, 12:26:25 PM »
Great point. I heard the other day that the Villa have 300 employees. I really do feel for those that don't kick a ball but whose families futures depends on them.

 


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