Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 06, 2016, 06:44:50 PMQuote from: bicky on January 06, 2016, 06:40:17 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 06, 2016, 05:52:49 PMQuote from: bicky on January 06, 2016, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: john e on January 06, 2016, 02:08:13 PM80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about itSo do you have to post to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?That's not what's being said.Yes it is.No it is not. What's being said is that most Villa supporters, in fact most football supporters, don't really care about the ins, outs and politics of their club. They want to watch the match, read about the team and occasionally talk about it but they don't particularly want to spend hours of every day arguing the toss on the internet. If it were any different the forums and blogs would have tens of thousands of contributors rather than a few hundred and I'd have long retired on the back of H&V sales that rivalled those of the Sun. Are those necessarily mutually exclusive though?
Quote from: bicky on January 06, 2016, 06:40:17 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 06, 2016, 05:52:49 PMQuote from: bicky on January 06, 2016, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: john e on January 06, 2016, 02:08:13 PM80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about itSo do you have to post to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?That's not what's being said.Yes it is.No it is not. What's being said is that most Villa supporters, in fact most football supporters, don't really care about the ins, outs and politics of their club. They want to watch the match, read about the team and occasionally talk about it but they don't particularly want to spend hours of every day arguing the toss on the internet. If it were any different the forums and blogs would have tens of thousands of contributors rather than a few hundred and I'd have long retired on the back of H&V sales that rivalled those of the Sun.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 06, 2016, 05:52:49 PMQuote from: bicky on January 06, 2016, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: john e on January 06, 2016, 02:08:13 PM80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about itSo do you have to post to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?That's not what's being said.Yes it is.
Quote from: bicky on January 06, 2016, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: john e on January 06, 2016, 02:08:13 PM80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about itSo do you have to post to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?That's not what's being said.
Quote from: john e on January 06, 2016, 02:08:13 PM80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about itSo do you have to post to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?
80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about it
General Krulak is no doubt a brave man. You don't become a General without having guts.However his comments today are embarrassing.
Quote from: aj2k77 on January 06, 2016, 03:22:14 PMQuote from: Gareth on January 06, 2016, 03:16:55 PMThe saddest thing about the position we are in and the amount of press coverage we have got recently is that there has been nothing about any interest in anyone purchasing the club from Randy.Obviously 95% of that occurs behind confidentiality agreements etc but it would be a rare light in the tunnel of mediocrity if a takeover story broke.The club is a mess from top to bottom and we're about to lose about 40% of our turnover and have the image of a rotting sardine. The only people interested right now I imagine would be vultures looking for a cheap deal.I think even those looking for a cheap deal will bide their time in the hope that we fall further and the asking price comes down further.
Quote from: Gareth on January 06, 2016, 03:16:55 PMThe saddest thing about the position we are in and the amount of press coverage we have got recently is that there has been nothing about any interest in anyone purchasing the club from Randy.Obviously 95% of that occurs behind confidentiality agreements etc but it would be a rare light in the tunnel of mediocrity if a takeover story broke.The club is a mess from top to bottom and we're about to lose about 40% of our turnover and have the image of a rotting sardine. The only people interested right now I imagine would be vultures looking for a cheap deal.
The saddest thing about the position we are in and the amount of press coverage we have got recently is that there has been nothing about any interest in anyone purchasing the club from Randy.Obviously 95% of that occurs behind confidentiality agreements etc but it would be a rare light in the tunnel of mediocrity if a takeover story broke.
Quote from: hoyle87 on January 06, 2016, 03:19:39 PMSurely Lerner won't want to sell us at the moment with the price he'd get now buyers won't consider us a PL side, he'll have to hope we come straight back up and then get rid.Anything that Randy hopes or puts his mind to tends not to work out or happen and I have absolutely zero faith in Lerner getting us straight back up.
Surely Lerner won't want to sell us at the moment with the price he'd get now buyers won't consider us a PL side, he'll have to hope we come straight back up and then get rid.
Quote from: cdward on January 06, 2016, 01:50:38 PMIs there a survival plan? The reason we are spending so much time talking about the General, is because no one from the club has told us what the plan is in this transfer window. Twist or stick?Garde has come out and said that he has players in mind and he has already mentioned wanting Remy.
Is there a survival plan? The reason we are spending so much time talking about the General, is because no one from the club has told us what the plan is in this transfer window. Twist or stick?
Quote from: aj2k77 on January 06, 2016, 03:09:39 PMQuote from: john e on January 06, 2016, 02:08:13 PM80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about itYou'd be surprised. People who don't use heroesandvillains.info can read as well you know. Blinky has been in the press often enough down the years for a fair portion of fans to know who he is.Same would go for Tom a Fox as well, your the one that would be surprised to find the majority of Villa fans don't live in our little internet bubble, and find everything they do and say worth analysing
Quote from: john e on January 06, 2016, 02:08:13 PM80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General isso I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about itYou'd be surprised. People who don't use heroesandvillains.info can read as well you know. Blinky has been in the press often enough down the years for a fair portion of fans to know who he is.
I think Lerner well and truly busted the myth that in the sky money era premier league clubs are a money spinner. As well as the myth that we have the potential to swell our support by converting neutrals in the area, given there were no signs of this happening even when we were the up and coming club and jostling with Arsenal for 4th place.So, I agree with you PW, there's not an obvious way out of this from an ownership perspective. Let's face it billionaires looking for an ego project will have their pick of clubs better than us, more undervalued than us and better located than us (well, in London).
Quote from: LTA on January 06, 2016, 06:42:47 PMGeneral Krulak is no doubt a brave man. You don't become a General without having guts.However his comments today are embarrassing.Why is he no doubt brave?There's many ways to become a general - I doubt being brave is one. You'd imagine being strategically aware and using tactical nous might be closer to the mark - but he's never demonstrated that either. Why on earth Lerner thinks he's ever been asset to the board I'll never know.Perhaps Lerner likes a man in uniform? lol
From The Sun. Hilarious witticisms comparing Villa with the the U.S. military omitted.The SunQuoteGeneral Charles Krulak says Aston Villa will summon the spirit of the US Marines to escape the dropHome Garde told: Don’t panic!GENERAL Charles Krulak says Aston Villa will summon the spirit of the US Marines to escape the drop.The rock-bottom Midlands outfit are marooned on eight points — a whopping 11 adrift of safety.And they have had more managers than wins this season!Tim Sherwood at least guided Villa to a 1-0 victory at Bournemouth on the opening day of the Premier League season.Following Sherwood’s sacking, new boss Remi Garde has picked up just four points from nine games. But board member Krulak — reclusive owner Randy Lerner’s right-hand man — claims Villa should draw inspiration from his own glittering military career.The 73-year-old was a commander in the first Gulf War and also served in Vietnam.He told SunSport: “I faced way bigger 'losing battles' than this — and won them.“You can’t tell me this is impossible. Three wins in a row and we are back in the mix.“That’s what Randy believes and what everyone at the Villa believes. The day you don’t believe is the day you quit. “Let’s just look at Desert Storm. It was 4am and we were standing next to minefields separating Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. There were trenches filled with gas, massive artillery ready to rain down on us and the threat of chemical attack.“My next in command looked at me and said, ‘How are we gonna get through this?’“I said, ‘We’re gonna do it, we’re gonna go through this like a knife through butter’. “It’s easy to give up but you can’t do that. We fought our way through those minefields and the rest is history.“Never forget that Randy’s father was also in the US Marines and he shares these values, these beliefs.”A belief in miracles would probably be handy right now.Villa have gone 19 games without a Premier League win and still need four points to pass Derby’s record low of 11 points during a Prem season, set in 2008. There are suspicions Villa will keep their powder dry in this month’s transfer window and save their money for the Championship.But Krulak added: “I speak to Randy almost every day.“He is a man of high values and integrity — the equal of anyone I have ever known.“His word is his bond. Nobody has their sights set on anything other than staying up and Randy is backing the manager 100 per cent.”
General Charles Krulak says Aston Villa will summon the spirit of the US Marines to escape the dropHome Garde told: Don’t panic!GENERAL Charles Krulak says Aston Villa will summon the spirit of the US Marines to escape the drop.The rock-bottom Midlands outfit are marooned on eight points — a whopping 11 adrift of safety.And they have had more managers than wins this season!Tim Sherwood at least guided Villa to a 1-0 victory at Bournemouth on the opening day of the Premier League season.Following Sherwood’s sacking, new boss Remi Garde has picked up just four points from nine games. But board member Krulak — reclusive owner Randy Lerner’s right-hand man — claims Villa should draw inspiration from his own glittering military career.The 73-year-old was a commander in the first Gulf War and also served in Vietnam.He told SunSport: “I faced way bigger 'losing battles' than this — and won them.“You can’t tell me this is impossible. Three wins in a row and we are back in the mix.“That’s what Randy believes and what everyone at the Villa believes. The day you don’t believe is the day you quit. “Let’s just look at Desert Storm. It was 4am and we were standing next to minefields separating Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. There were trenches filled with gas, massive artillery ready to rain down on us and the threat of chemical attack.“My next in command looked at me and said, ‘How are we gonna get through this?’“I said, ‘We’re gonna do it, we’re gonna go through this like a knife through butter’. “It’s easy to give up but you can’t do that. We fought our way through those minefields and the rest is history.“Never forget that Randy’s father was also in the US Marines and he shares these values, these beliefs.”A belief in miracles would probably be handy right now.Villa have gone 19 games without a Premier League win and still need four points to pass Derby’s record low of 11 points during a Prem season, set in 2008. There are suspicions Villa will keep their powder dry in this month’s transfer window and save their money for the Championship.But Krulak added: “I speak to Randy almost every day.“He is a man of high values and integrity — the equal of anyone I have ever known.“His word is his bond. Nobody has their sights set on anything other than staying up and Randy is backing the manager 100 per cent.”
Quote from: Billy Walker on January 06, 2016, 03:58:54 PMQuote from: hoyle87 on January 06, 2016, 03:19:39 PMSurely Lerner won't want to sell us at the moment with the price he'd get now buyers won't consider us a PL side, he'll have to hope we come straight back up and then get rid.Anything that Randy hopes or puts his mind to tends not to work out or happen and I have absolutely zero faith in Lerner getting us straight back up. I think the greatest hope for peace in the free world is that Randy takes over IS and gradually mismanages them downwards to local vandals status.
Quote from: oldhill_avfc on January 06, 2016, 07:04:16 PMQuote from: LTA on January 06, 2016, 06:42:47 PMGeneral Krulak is no doubt a brave man. You don't become a General without having guts.However his comments today are embarrassing.Why is he no doubt brave?There's many ways to become a general - I doubt being brave is one. You'd imagine being strategically aware and using tactical nous might be closer to the mark - but he's never demonstrated that either. Why on earth Lerner thinks he's ever been asset to the board I'll never know.Perhaps Lerner likes a man in uniform? lolHis military career is very impressive and started at the bottom of the ladder. I am very uncomfortable with the personal abuse he is attracting here.
Quote from: cheltenhamlion on January 06, 2016, 07:23:59 PMQuote from: oldhill_avfc on January 06, 2016, 07:04:16 PMQuote from: LTA on January 06, 2016, 06:42:47 PMGeneral Krulak is no doubt a brave man. You don't become a General without having guts.However his comments today are embarrassing.Why is he no doubt brave?There's many ways to become a general - I doubt being brave is one. You'd imagine being strategically aware and using tactical nous might be closer to the mark - but he's never demonstrated that either. Why on earth Lerner thinks he's ever been asset to the board I'll never know.Perhaps Lerner likes a man in uniform? lolHis military career is very impressive and started at the bottom of the ladder. I am very uncomfortable with the personal abuse he is attracting here.It's a shame he decided to come out with the guff he has then, otherwise his thoughts would've remained a mystery - along with his other good buddy.
Quote from: auntiesledd on January 06, 2016, 07:36:17 PMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on January 06, 2016, 07:23:59 PMQuote from: oldhill_avfc on January 06, 2016, 07:04:16 PMQuote from: LTA on January 06, 2016, 06:42:47 PMGeneral Krulak is no doubt a brave man. You don't become a General without having guts.However his comments today are embarrassing.Why is he no doubt brave?There's many ways to become a general - I doubt being brave is one. You'd imagine being strategically aware and using tactical nous might be closer to the mark - but he's never demonstrated that either. Why on earth Lerner thinks he's ever been asset to the board I'll never know.Perhaps Lerner likes a man in uniform? lolHis military career is very impressive and started at the bottom of the ladder. I am very uncomfortable with the personal abuse he is attracting here.It's a shame he decided to come out with the guff he has then, otherwise his thoughts would've remained a mystery - along with his other good buddy. Why does the fact his comments are considered guff call for comments about his military career, and Randy Lerner's sexual preference?
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