Randy Lerner

[dave.woodhall]

80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General is
so I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about it

So do you have to post  to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?

That's not what's being said.

[hvkfa1]

A few point. Firstly, even if General Krulak wanted to be here,  he isn't well enough to travel transatlantic. Secondly, he has nothing to do with the running of the club and hasn't done for years. Third, it is unfortunate that The Sun always call him when they want a Villa quote and he still hasn't grasped "no comment" as the best way to go. With him seeing Randy as a surrogate son he will always come out swinging in his defence.

I am interested in the comment a couple of pages back that seems to be aimed at AVST though. To just disregard an elected board as some kind of club flunkies, desperately trying to wangle a job at the Villa, does them a great disservice.

You would be pointing to my post, I suspect. It is untrue that I was referring to the AVST. The type of group I mean is the little groups that clubs have where fans become connected to the board in some way. The AVST, whose AGM I asked about how to attend on here the other day, appear to be a truly independent body that is not frightened to speak out against the club. This is not the case with fans 'representatives' who, are known to sell their souls to the Devil once they have wheedled their way into position.

[cheltenhamlion]

A few point. Firstly, even if General Krulak wanted to be here,  he isn't well enough to travel transatlantic. Secondly, he has nothing to do with the running of the club and hasn't done for years. Third, it is unfortunate that The Sun always call him when they want a Villa quote and he still hasn't grasped "no comment" as the best way to go. With him seeing Randy as a surrogate son he will always come out swinging in his defence.

I am interested in the comment a couple of pages back that seems to be aimed at AVST though. To just disregard an elected board as some kind of club flunkies, desperately trying to wangle a job at the Villa, does them a great disservice.

You would be pointing to my post, I suspect. It is untrue that I was referring to the AVST. The type of group I mean is the little groups that clubs have where fans become connected to the board in some way. The AVST, whose AGM I asked about how to attend on here the other day, appear to be a truly independent body that is not frightened to speak out against the club. This is not the case with fans 'representatives' who, are known to sell their souls to the Devil once they have wheedled their way into position.

Then I stand corrected and will engage rewind on my neck!

[joe_c]

A few point. Firstly, even if General Krulak wanted to be here,  he isn't well enough to travel transatlantic. Secondly, he has nothing to do with the running of the club and hasn't done for years. Third, it is unfortunate that The Sun always call him when they want a Villa quote and he still hasn't grasped "no comment" as the best way to go. With him seeing Randy as a surrogate son he will always come out swinging in his defence.

I am interested in the comment a couple of pages back that seems to be aimed at AVST though. To just disregard an elected board as some kind of club flunkies, desperately trying to wangle a job at the Villa, does them a great disservice.

You would be pointing to my post, I suspect. It is untrue that I was referring to the AVST. The type of group I mean is the little groups that clubs have where fans become connected to the board in some way. The AVST, whose AGM I asked about how to attend on here the other day, appear to be a truly independent body that is not frightened to speak out against the club. This is not the case with fans 'representatives' who, are known to sell their souls to the Devil once they have wheedled their way into position.

You will of course be backing this statement up with an example of this happening, yes?

[cheltenhamlion]

I presumed by "representatives" he was having a dig at those who appoint themselves to represent the masses. If it is a sly dig at Dave then that is different.

[bertlambshank]

Dave can represent me if wants,but I ain't paying him for it.

[cheltenhamlion]

He doesn't pay me for writing 10% of his fanzine, the tight bastard!

[Jon Crofts]

My own view is that savvy businessmen aren't interested as far too big a % of the income has to be spent on staff to turn a serious profit, for those looking to do it as a vanity project, there are already lots of clubs owned by incredibly rich individuals, what ego driven businessman want to spend half a billion quid and still not be able to sit at the top table?

I think that's pretty much right. When you look at how much it would cost, and what kind of success you'll get, a superyacht or a private Caribbean island are a lot more attractive.

Oh I dunno, owning Charles N'Zogbia and making him work 'til he drops every single miserable day of his contract would be deeply satisfying.

[dave.woodhall]

Dave can represent me if wants,but I ain't paying him for it.

I wish someone would.

[bicky]

80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General is
so I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about it

So do you have to post  to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?

That's not what's being said.

Yes it is.

[bertlambshank]

I think everybody needs a group hug.

[LTA]

General Krulak is no doubt a brave man.  You don't become a General without having guts.

However his comments today are embarrassing.

[mr underhill]

let's go back to the group hug idea and put the General to one side. I'll be Tinky-Winky

[dave.woodhall]

80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General is
so I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about it

So do you have to post  to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?

That's not what's being said.

Yes it is.

No it is not. What's being said is that most Villa supporters, in fact most football supporters, don't really care about the ins, outs and politics of their club. They want to watch the match, read about the team and occasionally talk about it  but they don't particularly want to spend hours of every day arguing the toss on the internet. If it were any different the forums and blogs would have tens of thousands of contributors rather than a few hundred and I'd have long retired on the back of H&V sales that rivalled those of the Sun.

[hipkiss92]

80-90% of Villa fans who don't post on message boards wont even know who the General is
so I doubt if many of them are getting all worked up about it

So do you have to post  to have any knowledge of the club you have supported for 56 yrs?

That's not what's being said.

Yes it is.

No it is not. What's being said is that most Villa supporters, in fact most football supporters, don't really care about the ins, outs and politics of their club. They want to watch the match, read about the team and occasionally talk about it  but they don't particularly want to spend hours of every day arguing the toss on the internet. If it were any different the forums and blogs would have tens of thousands of contributors rather than a few hundred and I'd have long retired on the back of H&V sales that rivalled those of the Sun.

Are those necessarily mutually exclusive though?