Randy Lerner

[dave.woodhall]

Sorry Moss man his heart is definately not in the right place, if his heart was in the right place he would not have got up and scarpered when the first bit of flak came his way, not the actions of an all fighting Action Man like he likes to make out.

Have you any idea why he did that?

[hvkfa1]

Defend him to the hilt all you may want to but, in my view, everything that Krulak has spouted over the last 2-3 years has been utter crap.

Who here is or has "defended him to the hilt"?

Maybe nobody. Delete that part of my post if it troubles you.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

I love the smell of three points in the afternoon. The smell, you know that winning smell, smelled like................

victory. Someday this Premier is gonna end...(for us anyway)

[mattjpa]

Serious question - what could he have said that would have been better?

he could have kept his face shut and said nothing

And then we would all still be going on about the conspicuous silence from our disinterested American overlords. If anything, the question is why is GK having to fill a void left by Lerner's silence.

We want to hear more from the organ grinder not his monkey.

Agreed. So, again, why does GK stepping in with clumsy motivational bollocks merit so much bile about his age/mental health/nationality? His heart is clearly in the right place and he is the least of our problems.

Because the place where his heart is is to always look out and deflect negative attention and criticism from his close friend's son. We need direct action from our board that can affect our short, mid, and long term capabilities of the club. We don't need Krulak spouting mind numbing emptiness. We want to hear something from the board just not his brand of nonsense.

it doesnt 'merit ' it at all, but that is not the point. People are angry and upset. We have been beaten down, fleeced, sold short and embarrassed by something we were all once proud of and in the utter depths of dispair and realisation for the first time this weeknd that this is actually happening, we get an out of touch, bullshit rallying call from over the pond. It is extremely ill judged and badly timed so a little bit of vitriol is understandable. We didnt win against Norwich or Sunderland, I would love him to pinpoint where  he sees these three wins coming from.
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[peter w]

Well look across the forum and all manner of people from Joe Nobody, to The Apprentice contenders, to various Villa players, to Bono get no end of vitriolic attacks. Not sure why Krulak is considered a special case to be protected from insults. Not that I'm encouraging the more personal insults but if one 'merits' it they all do. Or more to the point, if one doesn't than one deserve insults. How dull would that be?

[Dave]

Defend him to the hilt all you may want to but, in my view, everything that Krulak has spouted over the last 2-3 years has been utter crap.

Who here is or has "defended him to the hilt"?

Maybe nobody. Delete that part of my post if it troubles you.

It doesn't trouble me at all. Nor do I have any interest in deleting anything.

It just wastes your time if you start arguing with people who haven't said what you think they've said.

[pbavfckuwait]

No Dave W I do not have a clue, apart from the impression that when everyone was fed up of sucking of his ego and what a great man he was and started asking questions that did not need a reply of how great he is and his mate, he went very very quickly and also brought our fantastic motto to his new role, 'Bright Future " crap.

[Chris Harte]

People are angry and upset. We have been beaten down, fleeced, sold short and embarrassed by something we were all once proud of and in the utter depths of dispair and realisation for the first time this weeknd that this is actually happening, we get an out of touch, bullshit rallying call from over the pond. It is extremely ill judged and badly timed so a little bit of vitriol is understandable. We didnt win against Norwich or Sunderland, I would love him to pinpoint where  he sees these three wins coming from.

**applause**

[croatian]

A few abstract thoughts came to me yesterday, maybe the hierarchy will wheel out the General/John Wayne/Rambo, dagger between teeth, trundling over the dunes in his Sherman, invoking images of glorious USMC victories in order to inspire us and take the heat out of the situation?

I dismissed the idea, the hierarchy wouldn't be so crass or stupid, would they?

They did, and they are.

In the wider scale of things it doesn't matter jack what the Gen puts out in the press, other than it reinforces the impression that the club has become a pathetic laughing stock.

Whilst we're being surreal, I have it on good authority that Randy is actually dead. Yep, he was assassinated in Pakistan in 2011 by US Navy Seals, and his corpse dumped at sea......see General, you don't need an army pension and medals to come out with meaningless rubbish.

[Singapore Villa]

People are angry and upset. We have been beaten down, fleeced, sold short and embarrassed by something we were all once proud of and in the utter depths of dispair and realisation for the first time this weeknd that this is actually happening, we get an out of touch, bullshit rallying call from over the pond. It is extremely ill judged and badly timed so a little bit of vitriol is understandable. We didnt win against Norwich or Sunderland, I would love him to pinpoint where  he sees these three wins coming from.

**applause**

I second that applause.  Very well said.

[Singapore Villa]

It reinforces what Joey Barton said about muppets.

[themossman]

Both fair points, mattjpa and Peter.

I can understand high tempers because of where we are spilling over into some OTT comments. But there has to be a line, right? IMO it's being crossed in this thread.

I don't necessarily agree that chucking insults at Krulak is the same as chucking insults at Joey Essex or whoever. Firstly, because it seems to me there is a reasonable chance he or someone close to him will read the comments. Secondly, I believe he cares about villa. Thirdly, I believe both his decision to come on here in the first place and his obvious devotion to Lerner are generally things to be admired rather than chucked in his face.

At worst, if you believe he has no actual decision making power, then these comments are naive, but they make no difference either way to our situation and it wouldn't have been any better, for the purposes of the disgruntled fans, if he had stayed quiet or said something different.

[stuart r]

First, can we cut the random insults out.

How about specific, targeted insults? Are they ok? Because I think Krulak is potentially worthy of them.

Second, from past experience it's likely that Tom Fox knew about this at the same time everyone else did, so it's not proof of anything club-based other than the man himself never did get the hang of British tabloids. To quite a reguarly used maxim, they do enough regularly to damn them without looking for extra evidence.

Tom Fox knowing nothing about some preposterous Dr Strangleove tripe being spouted to the press by a board member who is also our owners Dads best mate means this is a club-based problem. It is extra evidence that we might have a complete buffoon on the board (if more evidence were needed). And I seriously do not like Krulak's habit of linking the plight of our football club to the tragedy and disaster of the Iraq War (although it does remind me to put my Villa concerns into some kind of appropriate context I suppose)

[themossman]

Also - if we start taking our cues from the likes of the mirror and joey barton, who is suddenly the speaker of truths, then we're in a world of shit.

[Dave]

First, can we cut the random insults out.

How about specific, targeted insults? Are they ok? Because I think Krulak is potentially worthy of them

If they are the sort that suggest that his comments are the consequence of a drinking problem or Alzheimer's Disease - or anything else that could see the site sued for libel, then no.