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Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1350 on: December 28, 2015, 09:47:46 PM »
Maybe it's just me but, sitting back and taking a long hard look, I'm starting to think maybe Randy is getting hit with all of the criticism when it's not really justified. Randy doesn't pick the team, the manager does. Does Randy even pick the manager? Whilst I agree he gets a lot of stick for being the invisible man (as far as his appearances at VP are concerned) should ALL of the blame for the dire performances on the pitch be laid at his feet?

He gets the blame for being utterly inept at recruiting abject, out of their depth and occasionally past their best bods to the senior echelons of the club. Namely CEOs and Football Managers and their immediate Direct Reports, namely coaching staff. The mainly dire performances of the last 6 years, and I actually include the back end of the O'Neill regime are a direct result.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1351 on: December 28, 2015, 10:08:55 PM »
But...in spite of Randy, Tactics Tim and Garde could have used the resources at their disposal much better. I still don't think being a poor chooser of staff is any justification for the abuse hurled at him. calling him a c*nt, arsehole, wanker, etc., Really? Like I said, maybe it's just me.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1352 on: December 28, 2015, 10:10:27 PM »
The Championship-standard resources forced upon them by Lerner's cost-cutting measures since Judas dropped us in it?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1353 on: December 28, 2015, 10:16:36 PM »
But...in spite of Randy, Tactics Tim and Garde could have used the resources at their disposal much better. I still don't think being a poor chooser of staff is any justification for the abuse hurled at him. calling him a c*nt, arsehole, wanker, etc., Really? Like I said, maybe it's just me.
Welcome to the site! Don't worry, just think of it as people expressing mild disappointment through the medium of violently foul language.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1354 on: December 28, 2015, 10:18:10 PM »
people expressing mild disappointment through the medium of violently foul language.

That'll be used again and again.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1355 on: December 28, 2015, 10:18:36 PM »
But...in spite of Randy, Tactics Tim and Garde could have used the resources at their disposal much better. I still don't think being a poor chooser of staff is any justification for the abuse hurled at him. calling him a c*nt, arsehole, wanker, etc., Really? Like I said, maybe it's just me.

I'd call a disinterested and detached fool.


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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1356 on: December 28, 2015, 10:19:43 PM »
So, the likes of Benteke, Delph, Traore, Ayew, Vertout et al...Championship-standard? Other clubs have far smaller budgets than us (Leicester, Swansea - 9th biggest wage bill in the PL, etc) and have done well. The way the money was spent is the fault of the people who have spent the money. Do you really think the abuse posters on here have been firing at Randy is justified?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1357 on: December 28, 2015, 10:20:04 PM »
I think most of us are well beyond defending Randy Lerner, who has to accept that it has been his costcutting and incompetence (in respect of appointing the correct staff) which has led us to this point.

While calling him a wanker might look a bit daft and overly-personal, I can't help think that you've come to the wrong part of the internet to find level-headed analytical posts about Lerner after Villa have just lost 2-0.

Offline Distant Drums

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1358 on: December 28, 2015, 10:22:08 PM »
Thanks, Bad English. Still finding my way around. :)

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1359 on: December 28, 2015, 10:24:28 PM »
Any business you need to grow and improve every year targets set and attained, he has tried to keep the status quo while selling the club and this has been disastrous. He has inherited a fortune but hasn't shown any business acumen himself, he has appointed people on hope more than reputation. We will not see an improvement at our club until he has gone, it is a given that the cutbacks next season will be dramatic revenues will be down across the board. I cannot see us coming back in one season.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1360 on: December 28, 2015, 10:25:29 PM »
So, the likes of Benteke, Delph, Traore, Ayew, Vertout et al...Championship-standard? Other clubs have far smaller budgets than us (Leicester, Swansea - 9th biggest wage bill in the PL, etc) and have done well. The way the money was spent is the fault of the people who have spent the money. Do you really think the abuse posters on here have been firing at Randy is justified?
There are volumes of this stuff. I think the swear words are a bit naff when there are perfectly decent adjectives like stupid, aloof,idiotic,half baked, disinterested, incompetance,deluded and useless which do just as well.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1361 on: December 28, 2015, 10:26:44 PM »
I think most of us are well beyond defending Randy Lerner, who has to accept that it has been his costcutting and incompetence (in respect of appointing the correct staff) which has led us to this point.

While calling him a wanker might look a bit daft and overly-personal, I can't help think that you've come to the wrong part of the internet to find level-headed analytical posts about Lerner after Villa have just lost 2-0.

You may well be right, Stu. I just felt some of the more aggressive verbage was out of order. May be i'm overly sensitive :)

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1362 on: December 28, 2015, 10:29:49 PM »
I think most of us are well beyond defending Randy Lerner, who has to accept that it has been his costcutting and incompetence (in respect of appointing the correct staff) which has led us to this point.

While calling him a wanker might look a bit daft and overly-personal, I can't help think that you've come to the wrong part of the internet to find level-headed analytical posts about Lerner after Villa have just lost 2-0.

You may well be right, Stu. I just felt some of the more aggressive verbage was out of order. May be i'm overly sensitive :)

You wait till people are extremely disappointed - then you'll see their displeasure expressed here through the medium of modern dance. Things will get very ugly then.

Offline Distant Drums

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1363 on: December 28, 2015, 10:31:12 PM »
Ha! Can't wait!

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #1364 on: December 28, 2015, 10:32:33 PM »
Ha! Can't wait!

Clearly you've never seen Risso's expressionist dancing.

 


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