Randy Lerner

[pbavfckuwait]

Another point Brian the club may be addressing as I have read this morning that Fox will meet with supporter organisations prior to today's game, that is good and a step in the right direction, but I will state now that the following will be relayed.
Lerner is still very much involved both financially and emotionally
Lerner will only sell at the right price and to the right person/s
We are fully behind the manager
We will see what we need in January and if we can, go out and get it at the right price of course, because we all know that signings are very expensive in January
We need the supporters to be fully behind us , be our extra man (but we wont take any extra away tickets just in case we can't sell them)
We ask you not to give up hope as we have not (as the deckchairs are pushed around the deck)

What more can he really say, he will not state the following
Employing TSM 1 was nothing short of ridiculous
Giving TSM 2 a extension to his contract was not the best bit of business we have carried out
Letting the cockney chancer slag us off to all and sundry through his mates in the meediiaa was something we could not see coming as he had no previous for doing this, within his extended career (AVB)  and 50% win ratio and we just wanted a nice rest when the international break came along and as it was half term the Euro star prices were to expensive to go and see one of me old muckers from Highbury, (nothing against Remi) and I was waiting for a nice signed letter from Arsen for Randys scrap book.
Also guys if we get to Wemberlee this year, Randy has promised he will come over again. So as you can see guys we have this tied down, keep the faith, Bright future and all that.

[brian green]

Your early morning observations Kuwait are like my daybreak coffee and as welcome, they make me wake up.

My comment about the tools and the materials at hand was a bit of verbal showboating on my part linking to my metaphor of Remi Garde walking into a jerrybuilt building. It was not a fit for purpose comment, just a bit of vanity on my part.

However, I do not think substantial money will be spent in January. The combination of the magnitude of the task we face and the monstrously inflated prices of so so players will inevitably result in a decision to go with what we have got and snatch back loanees.  Reading Remi I think the one purchase he will demand is a replacement for Brad Guzan and that will be it.

That will then lead to the issue we are both agreed on and which you expound pithily, namely the selling of this bag of goods to the fan base.  It will be attempted by sound bite, media speak, insincere flattery, bombast, flannel, flummery and social media marketing.  It will add up, when rendered down to basics in the heat of our pain, to "we go again".

Nobody will actually say in plain English what the problems are and allow us to see if those problems are actually being addressed, there will be the same cloak of dissembling that has been in place since Randy Lerner took over and first manifested itself seriously when the club allowed Martin O'Neill to present himself as Lerner's victim without a word of defence. All in my opinion of course.

[pbavfckuwait]

Agree with your opinion fully Brian, we will never ever get to the root cause of what has so drastically gone wrong with our beloved Villa and therein is part of the problem, good, bad or indifferent Lerner is and always has been a business man and maybe a flag that should have been raised a long long time ago, coming from a family that had not got the best history when they mixed their business background with sporting interests dare say franchises, if believing what you hear his father was a bit more business savey than the son and that did not go well for the father (Cleveland).
It is not the American way to admit openly when mistakes have been made, Vietnam,Iraq, Afghan and now Syria from a leadership point of view and their business leaders are just the same, just look at Daffy Donald at the moment. Add that to his total disconnect from the main stream sport media in the UK and I fear we will never ever find out what really happened.
My concern is that alot of people on this forum and Villa fans in general think that if we bite the bullet this year and get relegated, the rainbow is just around the corner, but what if it is not, what if Randy does not sell but wants to cut his cloth according to the finances coming in from the league we are then in, cannot get what he believes is a fair price for his investment, so therefore will hold out by putting people in place he believes can do the job, again his track record does not stand scrutiny with those decisions, really hope I am wrong but I can see the slow and painful destruction of a British Institution and it all being done while we are kept in the dark and fed full of shit.
 Villa mushrooms are us.

[brian green]

Agree Kuwait.  Going down is not the simple option of acceptance mixed with expectation of jam tomorrow.

There are three nightmares lurking in Holy Trinity churchyard waiting to engulf us. One is relegation, the second is not getting back and the third and worst is for us to become a yoyo club.

The two great unknowns that will shape our future are

1.  Is Remi Garde actually any good?

2.   What is going on inside Randy Lerner's head?

If you can answer either of those questions you are a better man than I am Dusty Bin.

[pbavfckuwait]

Question 2 Brian I do not think even he knows, depends which Shulamite he is with when he wakes up.

As for question 1, we are in a very strange position, but I do not believe with all of this give him a free pass mindset, we all stated before he came in that the squad were not as bad as the results and therefore league position was showing and that it was all Dopey Tim's doing, especially his reluctance to embrace the new foreign players, what I would say and I am not backing DT, but I have not yet seen from a Remi team, that first passage of play against Leicester, but I have seen the second passage when we gave up a two goal lead, Everton. Yes confidence is now an issue and he sees to be more considerate in his team selection and tactics than DT, but at the moment we are still in the same position with less games to play and without a win since August and apart from playing the players he has available and of course picking those world beaters that are not playing, that make us so so much better with every game they miss.

 Time waits for no man, including Remi.

[Gareth]

If there was any dignity or class in the board of our football club they would issue a statement profusely apologising for the fact that the hopeless and inept mismanagement of the club has led us to a position where we are basically relegated before Christmas with 5 months of the same pathetic nothingness to look forward to.

They have mocked us by dumbing down the ambition of the club to a point where they arrogantly assume that it is acceptable to go from challengers to trying to tread water with little to no investment in the team, make no mistake the board deserve relegation & the fact Lerners value will plummet is strangely cathartic.  A fool & his money & all that jazz...

Fox, Almstadt & Reilly should do the right thing and fall on their sword immediately - they supervised the summer with their clueless transfer strategy, one that singly failed to even remotely adequately replace Benteke or find defenders who actually know how to defend.

As for Remi, the time has come where he should name & shame those that either won't or can't contribute, not like we haven't had a 'bomb squad' before - name them & never let them wear the shirt again.

Oddly I am looking forward to the Championship, just not the 6 months getting there....


Randy enjoy the zeros dropping off your assets....

[ChicagoLion]

Kuwait, you stated above that Randy is and allways has been a business man. I disagree , Lerner inherited some businesses from his father.
I asked on another occaision a list of Lerners achievements which did not include inheriting a fortune from his father.

[Malandro]

I tried to do some reading on what Randy did before he took over from his father - all I can find is that he set up SAI in 2001, no evidence of it existing by that name now (from what I can see)

Did come across a Liverpool thread, bizarrely. One Liverpool fan said this:

"Martin O'Neill will be running around like a happy clappy chappie I reckon

Long, long overdue from a Villa perspective. Doug Ellis was the classic example of an ageing despot clinging on to a crumbling regime, this may just have saved them from disaster in the nick of time"



Makes me want to weep. Well not really, but its very sad.

[Malandro]

apologies for the smiley face - nothing to do with me

[ChicagoLion]

I tried to do some reading on what Randy did before he took over from his father - all I can find is that he set up SAI in 2001, no evidence of it existing by that name now (from what I can see)

Did come across a Liverpool thread, bizarrely. One Liverpool fan said this:

"Martin O'Neill will be running around like a happy clappy chappie I reckon

Long, long overdue from a Villa perspective. Doug Ellis was the classic example of an ageing despot clinging on to a crumbling regime, this may just have saved them from disaster in the nick of time"



Makes me want to weep. Well not really, but its very sad.

His dad was the money maker from furniture , Real Estate to Banking.
Sold MBA credit card company to Bank America, was paid in shares. There is nothing to suggest that Randy has achieved anything other than to be the Son of an  Entrepruener.
He managed to make the Browns worse and relegate the Villa.

[Malandro]

His biggest mistake at Villa?

I'd say its not appointing Tony Pulis. That would have been the sensible business decision.
Not one that I wanted...

[aj2k77]

Kuwait, you stated above that Randy is and allways has been a business man. I disagree , Lerner inherited some businesses from his father.
I asked on another occaision a list of Lerners achievements which did not include inheriting a fortune from his father.

Lerners main achievement will be as Chairman of Aston Villa when they get relegated. He joins a very very select group, the fucking pillock.

[Jimbo]

I'd love to know how he spends his days. I bet it's all crystals, reiki massages and colonic irrigation.

[aj2k77]

I'd love to know how he spends his days. I bet it's all crystals, reiki massages and colonic irrigation.

Whatever he decided he liked the day before he no longer likes and will be doing something completely different.

[Locko]

I'd love to know how he spends his days. I bet it's all crystals, reiki massages and colonic irrigation.

Wanking mainly,I suspect...