Randy Lerner

[old man villa fan]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tim-sherwood-gives-insight-aston-10406255

From the horses mouth.

"I certainly had a say, but the final say?"

I have not seen that article as I tend to stay away from the Birmingham Mail website as it is the most user unfriendly website around.  Once you actually get the page to fully load, the content is usually c*** anyway.

Many are critical of Lerner for allowing MON to spend, spend, spend but when he looks to have learnt from the past, we are still critical of him.  If Lerner is putting up the money, surely he should be the one who decides how much he spends, however much we don't like it.

The mess we are in is down to Lerner and those he turned to for advice.  The current regime are fighting a losing battle because of the many poor decisions made earlier.

A lot has been made about the players brought in from France but when you look at all the players, there was a balance between young and experienced and those experienced in English football and those from overseas.  The problem was that we needed more players to have been shown the door and replaced by better.

[ChicagoLion]

How is Lerner getting away with it, he owns the club, there is fuck all we can do.

[Chris Harte]

Trust me, if I wanted to antagonize you'd know.

Quite how citing examples and saying "it happens" is to distract from the manner at hand is beyond me. And again, last summer the club were getting slaughtered on here over Vlaar and Delph for being in their last year. One we won, one we half lost.

Okay, but when I walk on to a thread about Lerner and its full of people laying into Ellis like its 1986 it feels like an attempt to distract from what is happening today.

[PeterWithesShin]

Lerner 'gets off lightly' because we all know he wants out, so stuff like 'Lerner Out' protests are pretty pointless as that's what he wants to do anyway.

[Dave]

You must be wondering what sort of witchcraft Leicester are using which means that they were able to sign Swiss, Japanese, Senegalese, Tunisian and Austrian players and yet be able to use them competently.

Well then explain the emphasis on Remi Garde being able to gel all of the French players in the squad then. Still waiting for that to happen, BTW. Not that I blame Garde for any of this mess.

What does that have to do with your ridiculous claim that one of Lerner's biggest mistakes was not letting a shit manager waste enormous amounts of money on shit footballers?

He's made plenty of actual mistakes, without adding made-up ones to the list.

[Chris Harte]

Lerner 'gets off lightly' because we all know he wants out, so stuff like 'Lerner Out' protests are pretty pointless as that's what he wants to do anyway.

And the fact he's not here to face them in person. Ever.

[Chris Harte]

You must be wondering what sort of witchcraft Leicester are using which means that they were able to sign Swiss, Japanese, Senegalese, Tunisian and Austrian players and yet be able to use them competently.

Well then explain the emphasis on Remi Garde being able to gel all of the French players in the squad then. Still waiting for that to happen, BTW. Not that I blame Garde for any of this mess.

What does that have to do with your ridiculous claim that one of Lerner's biggest mistakes was not letting a shit manager waste enormous amounts of money on shit footballers?

Sorry. You lost me. I said what?

[Dave]

You must be wondering what sort of witchcraft Leicester are using which means that they were able to sign Swiss, Japanese, Senegalese, Tunisian and Austrian players and yet be able to use them competently.

Well then explain the emphasis on Remi Garde being able to gel all of the French players in the squad then. Still waiting for that to happen, BTW. Not that I blame Garde for any of this mess.

What does that have to do with your ridiculous claim that one of Lerner's biggest mistakes was not letting a shit manager waste enormous amounts of money on shit footballers?

Sorry. You lost me. I said what?

You said this:

Not allowing Sherwood to pick his own transfer targets in the summer.

[PeterWithesShin]

Lerner 'gets off lightly' because we all know he wants out, so stuff like 'Lerner Out' protests are pretty pointless as that's what he wants to do anyway.

And the fact he's not here to face them in person. Ever.

They'd still be token protests as he wants to sell. So to me, it's a bit pointless singing something like "we want Lerner out" when he wants it as well.
A lot of the protests against Ellis were because we wanted him gone and he had no intention of going.

[saunders_heroes]

I wouldn't have minded seeing what players Sherwood would have signed. Is it possible they could have been even worse than the shit we've seen so far this season?

[Chris Harte]

You said this:

Not allowing Sherwood to pick his own transfer targets in the summer.

If he was that shit then what was he doing at the club in the first place? Aside from the fact that Lerner employed him.

That's another addition to the list.

[Dave]

I wouldn't have minded seeing what players Sherwood would have signed. Is it possible they could have been even worse than the shit we've seen so far this season?

Lennon, Townsend and Adebayor? Yes, quite comfortably.

And by all accounts, Lescott and Gestede were his picks.

[saunders_heroes]

I wouldn't have minded seeing what players Sherwood would have signed. Is it possible they could have been even worse than the shit we've seen so far this season?

Lennon, Townsend and Adebayor? Yes, quite comfortably.

And by all accounts, Lescott and Gestede were his picks.

I'd take them now. I wonder if we'd have more than the 5 points in December?

[adrenachrome]

Lerner 'gets off lightly' because we all know he wants out, so stuff like 'Lerner Out' protests are pretty pointless as that's what he wants to do anyway.

Exactly.

In addition, he will get offers from entities that are serious about asset stripping, and if he he ends up selling to one of these outfits  then our troubles are only starting.

This is going to lead to a lot of tension among our support very soon. There is no doubt that the Lerner out faction will become more vocal; we saw it start in TS's last game.  They need to to vent their frustration, and the options are the board or the manager.

[Dave]

You said this:

Not allowing Sherwood to pick his own transfer targets in the summer.

If he was that shit then what was he doing at the club in the first place? Aside from the fact that Lerner employed him.

That's another addition to the list.

Well, quite. That's the massive mistake that should be on your list.

Refusing to let him spend a fortune on the Spurs reserve team isn't.