Randy Lerner

[Chris Harte]

We had no choice with the Delph contract. He'd have just walked otherwise.

So are you happy with the deception? The big deal made of the fact that our captain had signed a new deal, only for the deal to be a hollow one? With such a low buy-out clause, of course unknown to the support at the time, that any club swimming in Dhirams or Rubles could have stepped in and bought without blinking?

[Chris Harte]

You could also say that laughing with Prince William whilst the sack of shit he's presiding over is putting in the least competitive Cup Final performance in years was a bad move.

Actually, how did he get a cup final ticket. It sure as shit wasn't through his attendance record. We now know how little interest he's got in the club.

Please feel free to add your own.

[Salsa Party Animal]

and not employing right people to run the club and not replacing Steven Stride and trusting Martin O'Neill far too much. I think since Man City came in and really splash the money he had given up.

[Jon Crofts]

I'm not sure I agree with the Man City theory, that when they came along Lerner gave up, the timing is convenient but I bet it's simpler than that in that he thought chuck some money at it, after all that's what the fans have craved during the Ellis years and everything will be dandy.  There wasn't any plan behind any of it from day 1.  Nice bloke, completely out of his depth and completely clueless as to running a football club.

[Toronto Villa]

He should be given a medal for not allowing Sherwood to buy a bunch of expensive PL guff.

[saunders_heroes]

He should be given a medal for not allowing Sherwood to buy a bunch of expensive PL guff.

Oh I don't know, I wouldn't mind a few extra players in the squad who know what they're doing in the Premier League.

[adrenachrome]

At least you get the sense that, for all of his faults, Doug really did care.  And when he knew he'd cocked up he sold the club to the man who he felt was the best person for the job.  The thing that bugs me about Randy is the indifferance.  Does he actually care about anything other than money?

Which of the two made money out of his time at Villa?

Neither made the club successful but Doug made himself a fortune.

In fact, with the exception of a loan in the early days, he did not invest a single penny of his own money in the club, and was the first to take advantage of new regulations to draw a salary. In this respect, he and RL are polar opposites.   

[old man villa fan]

I'm not sure I agree with the Man City theory, that when they came along Lerner gave up, the timing is convenient but I bet it's simpler than that in that he thought chuck some money at it, after all that's what the fans have craved during the Ellis years and everything will be dandy.  There wasn't any plan behind any of it from day 1.  Nice bloke, completely out of his depth and completely clueless as to running a football club.

From what we have seen since, there was a naiveness when he came in.  Like you, I believe he thought that if he put enough money in, it would buy success.  What he did not understand was that you needed a good manager to sustain and build on success.  MON gave up thinking about the future and was only thinking about the present.  He bought players in a similar way to how people buy TVs now.  If it fails, throw it away.

[Villa in Denmark]

I'm not sure I agree with the Man City theory, that when they came along Lerner gave up, the timing is convenient but I bet it's simpler than that in that he thought chuck some money at it, after all that's what the fans have craved during the Ellis years and everything will be dandy.  There wasn't any plan behind any of it from day 1.  Nice bloke, completely out of his depth and completely clueless as to running a football club.

I suspect that ultimately, that that's all there is to it.

If he really had just wanted to piss £250M up the wall, I reckon he could have just dished it out to the fans and said go have a party whilst leaving the club in Doug mode.

The end result of where we are today wouldn't have been much different, the money might have lasted a bit longer and there would probably have been more entertainment.

[Toronto Villa]

He should be given a medal for not allowing Sherwood to buy a bunch of expensive PL guff.

Oh I don't know, I wouldn't mind a few extra players in the squad who know what they're doing in the Premier League.

What like Townsend at £14m and Adebayor at £200k a week. Maybe he could have just tried harder to integrate the players he was given.

[Chris Harte]

He should be given a medal for not allowing Sherwood to buy a bunch of expensive PL guff.

Oh I don't know, I wouldn't mind a few extra players in the squad who know what they're doing in the Premier League.

What like Townsend at £14m and Adebayor at £200k a week. Maybe he could have just tried harder to integrate the players he was given.

Sí. Porque es tan facile hablar con seis frances y un español cuando ellos no bastante hablar la idioma.

Sarcasm mode firmly on.

[old man villa fan]

He should be given a medal for not allowing Sherwood to buy a bunch of expensive PL guff.

Oh I don't know, I wouldn't mind a few extra players in the squad who know what they're doing in the Premier League.

What like Townsend at £14m and Adebayor at £200k a week. Maybe he could have just tried harder to integrate the players he was given.

or strengthen the most obvious weakness, the defence.

If Sherwood was not involved in the purchase of the foreign contingent (as alleged by many), what did he actual do in the summer.  If he had no hand in the bringing in of these players, I am sure we would have heard by now that his hands were tied over transfer dealings.

[Chris Harte]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tim-sherwood-gives-insight-aston-10406255

From the horses mouth.

"I certainly had a say, but the final say?"

[Stirchley Villain]

We had no choice with the Delph contract. He'd have just walked otherwise.

So are you happy with the deception? The big deal made of the fact that our captain had signed a new deal, only for the deal to be a hollow one? With such a low buy-out clause, of course unknown to the support at the time, that any club swimming in Dhirams or Rubles could have stepped in and bought without blinking?

I'm not happy with any of it. Me being peeved won't change the facts though.

[Chris Harte]

We had no choice with the Delph contract. He'd have just walked otherwise.

So are you happy with the deception? The big deal made of the fact that our captain had signed a new deal, only for the deal to be a hollow one? With such a low buy-out clause, of course unknown to the support at the time, that any club swimming in Dhirams or Rubles could have stepped in and bought without blinking?

I'm not happy with any of it. Me being peeved won't change the facts though.

And I'm certainly not happy about being deceived.

Or the lack of home wins in the last six months.